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Why Trump Won’t Be the GOP Nominee in 2020
The American Prospect ^ | August 7, 2018 | Robert Kuttner, Co-Founder and Co-Editor

Posted on 08/07/2018 7:13:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

There is a saying attributed to various wise men: “Never make predictions, especially about the future.” Allow me to tempt fate and offer some musings about the 2020 election and America’s democratic future:

The Republicans. I will be amazed if Donald Trump is the Republican nominee. The water around him is rising fast, and he is likely to be long gone by 2020, either via impeachment or resignation in a deal that spares him prosecution.

Trump’s Sunday morning tweet admitted that a June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between campaign aides and a Kremlin-linked lawyer was designed to “get information on an opponent.”

(TWEET-AT-LINK)

The tweet undercut a lie that Donald Trump Jr. told in July 2017 saying that the meeting had been primarily about the adoption of Russian children. The lie was cooked up in close consultation with Trump Senior.

In a recent New Yorker post, Adam Davidson details just how Trump’s “no collusion” story has fallen apart, in part due to his own impulsive failure to keep his lies straight.

As Davidson summarizes it:

•The president’s son and top advisers knowingly met with individuals connected to the Russian government, hoping to obtain dirt on their political opponent.
•Documents stolen from the Democratic National Committee and members of the Clinton campaign were later used in an overt effort to sway the election.
•When the Trump Tower meeting was uncovered, the president instructed his son and staff to lie about the meeting, and told them precisely which lies to use.
•The president is attempting to end the investigation into this meeting and other instances of attempted collusion between his campaign staff and representatives of the Russian government.

All of this is more than enough to justify an obstruction of justice charge, a prime ground for impeachment. It should be more than enough to cause Republican defenders to distance themselves from Trump. As Special Counsel Robert Mueller ferrets out more and more detail, a panicky Trump gets crazier and crazier. He will likely do himself in.

When Trump goes, don’t expect Vice President Mike Pence to be the 2020 nominee either. Pence is a famously inept politician, who was on track to be defeated for re-election as the Republican governor of Indiana—quite a trick.

The hardcore Trump base will be furious if (when) Trump is forced out. If Pence succeeds Trump, there will be a free-for-all, with some candidates running as the true successor to Trump and others trying to reclaim a sane Republican Party.

The latter could include moderates John Kasich, governor of Ohio, who is already positioning himself for a run; Maryland Governor Larry Hogan, and Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker. Their claim to success is that they get elected as Republicans in normally Democratic states. Their problem is that the electorate in Republican primaries is far to their right.

The former could include any number of frothing-at-the-mouth members of the House Freedom Caucus, plus of course Pence. So my bet is that the Republican nominee will be someone other than Trump, and will be presiding over a badly fractured party. What a gift to Democrats!

The Democrats. The entire Democratic pack is running to the left, because that’s where the grassroots energy is. Even Kirsten Gillibrand is trying to position herself to the left of Elizabeth Warren. One can debate whether the formerly centrist Gillibrand has had a sincere conversion or whether she is an opportunistic weathervane. But her stances say a lot about where the Democratic weather is.

Nobody has officially declared, of course, but as a splendid profile of Warren in New York magazine explains, Warren is increasingly the favorite of the activist party base and a front-runner to be the nominee.

Another likely finalist is Corey Booker. If Bernie Sanders goes again, he could be a third finalist.

Joe Biden is prominently mentioned, but I don’t buy it. He is almost as old as Bernie. Biden will turn 78 in November 2020, when Sanders will be 79. Biden is loved by the pundit class, but in two previous primary runs, he lost badly.

If I had to place money on it, I’d bet that Warren will be the nominee, and that Sanders won’t run. If Sanders and Warren get into a slugfest and divide the left, a more centrist economic candidate who is left on social issues, like Booker, could win.

As I’ve repeatedly written, Warren is the most effective leader the Dems have had in decades at narrating the lived experience of regular working people—as progressive politics. Some say she won’t do well with white males, that she is great in person, but too preachy and shrill on TV.

We’ll soon find out. I think she will blow the opposition away in the Midwestern primaries and caucuses.

What about Nancy Pelosi? Should Democrats take back control of the House in this year’s midterms, there is movement among backbenchers in the House Democratic Caucus to replace Pelosi as prospective speaker with a younger leader who is less of a lightning rod for Republican caricature. There are three problems.

First, the other members of the senior Democratic leadership are of Pelosi’s generation. The whip, Steny Hoyer, at 79, is older then Pelosi. Joe Crowley, the caucus chair, was knocked off in a primary by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Second, even though some Democratic candidates have pledged not to vote for Pelosi for speaker in order to take that issue off the table, she has been a very effective leader and there is a great deal of loyalty to her. When Ohio Democrat Tim Ryan challenged Pelosi for leader in 2017, Pelosi won overwhelmingly, 134 to 63.

Third, there is no consensus candidate among back-benchers to succeed Pelosi. Ryan would not do much better if he challenged Pelosi again. She might lose a couple of dozen votes from newly elected Democrats, but that’s not sufficient to topple her. And many newly elected Democrats will be women and progressives—like Pelosi.

My bet is that there will be an agreement in the caucus to give Pelosi one more term as speaker in exchange for her agreement to step down after 2020. And then her successor will be someone not in the current top leadership ranks, but a committee chair or other second-tier leadership figure in their forties or fifties.

As for the midterms? A year ago, I bet that Democrats would pick up 54 House seats. They may not gain quite that many, but they should comfortably take back the House.

A Close Run Thing. After the Battle of Waterloo, the victorious Duke of Wellington described his victory as “the nearest run thing you ever saw in your life.” The remark has often been rendered as “a close run thing.”

The appointment and survival of Robert Mueller has been a close run thing. Had Attorney General Jeff Sessions not recused himself, had Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein not been committed to the rule of law, had Sessions not refused to buckle under Trump’s taunts and threats, and had just enough senior Republican Trump allies in Congress not warned Trump to keep his hands off Sessions and Rosenstein, Mueller would have been done for.

If American democracy survives President Donald Trump, it will have been a close run thing. At the risk of making the most out-on-a limb prediction of all, I think that it will.

So, who actually said, “Never make predictions, especially about the future”? The expression has been attributed to figures as varied as Albert Einstein, Niels Bohr, Mark Twain, Yogi Berra, and Casey Stengel. Alas, the original is lost to the mists of time.

It turns out that getting the past right is almost as hard as getting the future right.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2020; bs; fake; fakenews; kasich; pence; trump; trump2020
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's like Bizzaro World. Think hard. Who do you know that would vote for John Kasich in the primaries or the general election?

I will not.

If this is the face of the Republican party, the best that they have to offer...it's worse than not good enough.

and that goes for jeff flake too
121 posted on 08/08/2018 5:47:27 AM PDT by novemberslady
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condidit’s very good buddy...


122 posted on 08/08/2018 5:49:16 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: 50mm

It’s pretty evident that in Delaware and Licking a LOT of Rs stayed home. This is less likely due to the Mailman than it is there was STILL great lack of awareness about an election!

My source, whom I call OhioWan due to his near-perfect calls on OH, said that GOP callers into the district were finding that as late as Trump’s rally, many Republicans there did not know there was a special election!!

The good news is that this won’t be a problem in November.


123 posted on 08/08/2018 6:28:29 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This article is a stunning example of a brain on meth.


124 posted on 08/08/2018 8:22:59 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Celtic Conservative

I have a brother very much like that. We’ve not spoken in years and I haven’t missed him.


125 posted on 08/08/2018 10:29:19 AM PDT by snuffy smiff (Build the Wall and build it tall, then build a gallows and hang them ALL!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh for the love of God. Tucker debunked this with his quest on Aug 6. Trump tweeted the exact same thing a year ago. And there is nothing illegal about seeking opposition research.


126 posted on 08/08/2018 11:48:42 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: WMarshal

I know. One, the author concludes with calling America a democracy, which it isn’t. Secondly suggests the democracy is falling due to Trump.

Delusion and projection.


127 posted on 08/08/2018 11:49:59 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Same reasons why he would not win in the first place. We see that logic.


128 posted on 08/08/2018 11:53:00 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: cynwoody

I don’t think the President is a fried chicken eater.
Fork and knife?


129 posted on 08/08/2018 11:59:33 AM PDT by deport
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To: LS
Registered voter turnout was Franklin - 42.29%, Delaware - 42.37% and Licking - 32.25%. Isn't that pretty good for a special election in an off presidential year?

This is anecdotal, but my son said he saw lots of O'Connor yard signs and TV commercials. He said he didn't see much supporting Balderson. Apparently the DNC spent heavily in this race and the GOP shortchanged it.

I did my part, telling my boy to vote like his gun rights depended on it. He rallied his three housemates and they all voted for Balderson too. That's 4 Balderson votes in Franklin.

130 posted on 08/08/2018 5:47:49 PM PDT by 50mm (-.. .-. .. -. -.- / --- ...- .- .-.. - .. -. . /)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; GuavaCheesePuff
That type of news has an effect on Americans.

After thousands of claims of Hitler for everything, nothing is Hitler.


131 posted on 08/08/2018 10:01:49 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Sod off, swampy.


132 posted on 08/08/2018 10:02:25 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: 50mm

Yes. Quite normal.


133 posted on 08/09/2018 6:48:23 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow. This guy is downright delusional. Or, he was only expecting his hit piece to be read by people already predisposed to hyperbolic anti Trump narratives.

I love the part about a Trump Sr tweet “admitting” that the Trump tower meeting took place in the hope of getting opposition intel on Clinton - and how that “admission” “exposed” Trump Jr’s “lie” that the meeting was primarily about Russian adoptions.

But both men’s statements are true - the meeting WAS attended in hopes of getting dirt on Clinton, AND it wound up being primarily about adoption. And niether are crimes, so there was nothing to “admit” or to “lie” about by either Trump, and nothing to be “exposed” either.

What a dishonest piece of crap!


134 posted on 08/09/2018 12:02:07 PM PDT by enumerated
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

You are the voice of gloom - not reason.

Here, I’ll rearrange a couple of your statements to put you on the right path:

Everyday on the news is Russia, Manafort, Gates, Russia.

Yet, in spite of that, the country is 50-50 with Trump.

Adjusting the polls to correct for MSM bias, the true approval rating is likely upwards of 60% and rising.

Trump is marginalizing the fake news and showing the American people the truth about Democrats.


135 posted on 08/09/2018 12:35:25 PM PDT by enumerated
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To: Reno89519
Totally agree

Trump 2020 :)

136 posted on 08/10/2018 11:24:52 AM PDT by james212
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