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Poll: Democrats out of line with public on transgender pronouns
Hot Air ^ | October 11, 2017 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 10/11/2017 11:55:56 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Only yesterday we looked at a new law in California which could impose fines or even jail time for healthcare workers who refuse to refer to transgender patients using the pronouns which are opposite of their actual gender. At the time I wondered if that could possibly withstand a legal challenge, but that may not be their biggest problem. A new poll from the Cato Institute and YouGov examines a number of different speech issues in our country, and among others it finds that folks are not at all in favor of punishing people for refusing to indulge in unscientific redefinitions of gender. (The Atlantic)

51 percent of Democrats would favor a law “requiring people to refer to a transgender person by their preferred gender pronouns and not according to their biological sex.” Majorities of African Americans, Latinos, whites, and Republicans disagreed.

That’s fairly remarkable. If you limit the pool only to self proclaimed Democrats, you can only find 51% who agree with the idea. And more shockingly, majorities of the two major racial demographics which the Dems rely on at the polls – African Americans and Latinos – are opposed to the idea. As for whites and anyone not registering Democrat? Fuggedaboutit.

The Democrats are playing with fire here. Or perhaps playing with dynamite is a better analogy, and the GOP is more than willing to hand them a book of matches.

Some other results from this poll are a bit more alarming, though, particularly when it comes to basic knowledge about the Constitution and the law. A majority of all Americans and an undefined “supermajority” of black respondents agreed with the statement, “society can prohibit hate speech and still protect free speech.” If that’s not frightening enough, 38% of blacks and 45% of Latinos wrongly believe it’s already illegal to “make a racist statement in public.”

There are some interesting figures in there about who should or shouldn’t be fired from their jobs for offensive speech. The only majority they could find in favor of firing a business executive over comments they make was for people who publicly opined that African Americans are “genetically inferior” to whites. For all other offensive opinions, a majority didn’t believe they should be terminated.

My major problem with that section of the poll is that it conflates the idea of government suppressing speech and employers regulating the behavior of workers on the job. For example, if you get a job as a barista at a coffee shop, you may be instructed to greet customers by saying, “Good morning! May I help you?” You remain perfectly free to size up the first customer of the day and say, “So, what do you want, jackass?” The government can not come and arrest you for that. But your employer can make sure that you only say it outside of their establishment in the future by firing you. That’s the key difference.

There’s plenty more I’ll leave for you to go read for yourself, but I wanted to close with a few of the college speaker choices. Who should be allowed to speak at a school? These are the percentages who said “no,” they should not be allowed on campus.

A speaker who advocates for violent protests (81 percent) A speaker who plans to publicly reveal the names of illegal immigrants attending the college (65 percent) A speaker who says the Holocaust did not occur (57 percent) A speaker who says all white people are racist (51 percent) A speaker who says Muslims shouldn’t be allowed to come to the U.S. (50 percent) A speaker who advocates conversion therapy for gays and lesbians (50 percent) A speaker who says transgender people have a mental disorder (50 percent)

There’s a lot of intolerance out there still when it comes to college speakers. You can find the rest at the link above, but clearly there’s a lot more education on the First Amendment required around the country.


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; Polls; State and Local
KEYWORDS: democrats; homosexualagenda; polls; transgenders

1 posted on 10/11/2017 11:55:56 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I call them freaks’. Haul me to jail!


2 posted on 10/11/2017 12:00:37 PM PDT by beergarden
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I've taken to just calling anyone questionable "human".

I know, it only "limits" my exposure to stupidity. d;^)

It gets some funny looks, tho'.

3 posted on 10/11/2017 12:01:13 PM PDT by CopperTop (Outside the wire it's just us chickens. Dig?)
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>> 51 percent of Democrats would favor a law

Your freaks right here.


4 posted on 10/11/2017 12:01:43 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: beergarden

I just call them The Alphabet People (TAP).


5 posted on 10/11/2017 12:02:04 PM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK so a person born male goes to a CA hospital or OB/GYN doctor and insists on a pap smear test etc

does the doctor go to jail for pointing out that the patient does not nor ever has processed a vagina, cervix, womb etc and therefore the exam cannot be accomplished ???


6 posted on 10/11/2017 12:15:18 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bet that should be “democrat mouthpieces”, not “democrat citizens?.


7 posted on 10/11/2017 12:23:35 PM PDT by cymbeline
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To: CopperTop

:D


8 posted on 10/11/2017 12:29:18 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Give Californians a couple of years, and they’ll fall in line with their masters. If not, more compliant voters can be imported until they poll the way they’re supposed to.


9 posted on 10/11/2017 12:34:39 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The law is unconstitutional, illegal, and wrong. It is invalid and not binding. The government does not have to right to force people to speak in a certain way.

Anyone who favors this law does not deserve to live in my country, and needs to be kicked the hell out.

You want pronouns? When you speak to someone, it’s “YOU.” Are they saying that they want us to change “YOU” to something else?

Also, when speaking about someone to someone else, it’s “HE, SHE or IT.” You may be speaking in the presence of the targeted individual, or far away. Are they mandating that every time I speak ABOUT a dickchopper TO someone else, 10 miles away, I MUST use the pronouns?

They start with nursing homes. That’s by design. The elderly don’t give a $hit and will not complain. Then the f*cking fascists claim that no one has objected, and they move to hospitals. So now, the doctor who is trying to revive a dickchopper who has declared that his/her/its pronouns are tis, tes and zem, will be barred from practicing medicine because he said “Nurse, we’ve got to stop his bleeding” instead of “Nurse, we’ve got to stop tes bleeding”.

This is not insane. They know what they are doing. If this country had elected the aging, pudgy pantsuit lady, we all would be in danger of prosecution for speaking proper English.

I will not conform. F*ck this, and f*ck the democrat fascists who forced it upon us.


10 posted on 10/11/2017 12:40:38 PM PDT by I want the USA back (*slam is a violent political movement that hides behind the illusion of religion.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

11 posted on 10/11/2017 12:53:17 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Social activists are always pushing the boundaries, seeing what more they can get away with today than they did yesterday. This is "progress" if you can dignify bullying with that word. So long as they are in the minority it's annoying but harmless enough.

But when they have achieved uncontested control over the state as they have in California, it isn't a case of testing the boundaries anymore, there aren't any but the constitution that is easily disregarded, the sky's the limit. Speech control isn't actually thought control despite a century of academic pretension, but it can be good enough if it's backed by monopolized, sanctioned violence. Polls such as this one become irrelevant. If anyone imagines that the Kali legislature is listening to it, they're smoking crack.

12 posted on 10/11/2017 1:10:05 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
"..Progress, like nearly everything else, is relative, and I often wonder if it's benefits are entirely undiluted.." Robert Ruark, The Old Man's Boy Grows Older..

A favorite. d:^)

13 posted on 10/11/2017 2:55:54 PM PDT by CopperTop (Outside the wire it's just us chickens. Dig?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

so...considering most people in retirement homes are, old folks, from a different era, just how many of them are ‘transsexual’? one? two? five?
so why did we waste time and tax dollars to pass some stupid law that pertains to basically no one?


14 posted on 10/11/2017 3:24:05 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are no transgenders. There are only chemically altered and/or physically mutilated males or females.


15 posted on 10/12/2017 7:18:48 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed

>>There are no transgenders. There are only chemically altered and/or physically mutilated males or females.
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Thanks to satanically-driven cultural Marxists, we live in a surreal “Twilight Zone” where stating common sense Truth will result in jail time for any who dare to speak it.


16 posted on 10/12/2017 7:24:20 AM PDT by Kalamata (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ok fine - Forget pronouns then:

XX, XY, Other.

Which is it?


17 posted on 10/13/2017 11:48:29 AM PDT by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A majority of all Americans and an undefined “supermajority” of black respondents agreed with the statement, “society can prohibit hate speech and still protect free speech.” If that’s not frightening enough, 38% of blacks and 45% of Latinos wrongly believe it’s already illegal to “make a racist statement in public.”

OMG - someone needs to get this to Tucker...

18 posted on 10/13/2017 11:54:22 AM PDT by GOPJ (IF 'illegals' rob a bank should their "innocent" DREAMER kids be allowed to keep the loot??)
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