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Tom Frank: On the Road in Trump Country: How Trump won, and why Clinton lost.
The Nation ^ | April 14, 2017 | Jon Wiener

Posted on 04/14/2017 8:45:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

JW: You wrote Listen, Liberal before the 2016 election. In it, you argued that the Democrats had detached themselves from their historic constituency: ordinary, working-class Americans. Your recent tour took you through the red states—you went to Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Columbus, Indianapolis—

TF: You want to know the biggest lesson I learned touring Trumpland? People hated Hillary Clinton. To a degree that even I, with my cynicism, did not understand. I did not hate Hillary Clinton. I voted for her, and I agreed with Obama that she was very qualified. She deserved to be president. I didn’t think she’d be a great president, but I thought she’d be OK—certainly better than Donald Trump. I knew how to hate Donald Trump. That’s easy. He boasts about groping women. He says these evil things about Mexicans, and mocks the handicapped. It’s unbelievable the stuff this guy did and said. Hating him was easy. What I did not understand was the degree to which people really hated Hillary Clinton. And that’s ultimately what this election was about: Which one do you hate more?

JW: Why did so many people hate Hillary?

TF: That’s the question. What is it about her? She doesn’t say rude things. She tries so hard to not offend people. I think it’s the very things that you and I like about Hillary that were the problem: She is so professional, she is so polished, and she’s such a wonderful lawyer. She went to Yale law school, and was so brilliant, and was the best in her class. People hate this. They hate what she represents, this kind of scolding liberalism that’s better than you. In Listen, Liberal, I talked about her goodness and her righteousness. I kind of made fun of her for it. But people hate that stuff. Hate it. And people running the Democratic campaign had no idea. The Republicans kept Trump at arm’s length all through the campaign. They knew that this guy was toxic. The Democrats did not do that with Hillary Clinton. They loved her without reservation. And not just them: the media, the press, the newspaper columnists—they could not imagine someone better than Hillary Clinton being a nominee for president.

JW: What is your case against the party of Hillary Clinton?

TF: It’s not a party of working-class people anymore. It’s not a party that cares much about the condition of the middle class. It’s a party that is attached to a different group, affluent, white-collar professionals who share a certain class perspective on the world. It’s a story of social class, but not the social class everyone thinks of when they think of the Democratic Party…. I voted for Hillary Clinton. But Hillary Clinton was the perfect embodiment of what’s wrong with the Democratic Party.

JW: Of course the Democrats had a choice in the primaries. On the one hand, there was the most qualified person ever to run for office, who would make history by becoming the first woman president. On the other, there was a 74-year-old Jewish socialist from Vermont.

TF: And he’s the electable one!

JW: You called him “a living symbol of what the Democrats used to stand for.” So why didn’t Bernie win?

TF: I’m not one of these people that thinks she won the nomination by cheating. Her side did cheat. There’s no doubt about that. The Democratic National Committee did cheat. But she also won fair and square. Why did Bernie lose the Democratic primaries? First of all, he was a totally unknown quantity when those primaries started. Today, he’s very well-known. People sort of wish he was president. But at the time, he was an unknown quantity. Most damaging of all, he wasn’t a Democrat. All those years in Congress, he never signed up with the Democratic Party. He voted with them most of the time, and he caucused with them, but he never joined the party. So party insiders, people who vote in Democratic primaries, Democratic elected officials—there’s no way they’re going to support a guy like that. And here’s Hillary, who has been promising these people things for decades now. She is their ideal candidate.

JW: The Democrats adopted most of Bernie’s issues in their platform at their convention—did that have an impact on the white working-class Trump supporters?

TF: No. Zero. They didn’t even know that. Another thing I learned in Trumpland: Bernie Sanders is a remarkably popular politician. Remarkably popular. This is a man that has very few scandals. I don’t think he has any. I think a lot of people regard him as a reassuring figure, as a comforting figure because he reminds them of Democrats of old. I spoke in a union hall in Indianapolis. This is the union local that represents those workers at the Carrier plant that Trump made such a big deal out of in the election. It was a lot of fun. These are people where the rank and file, by and large, went for Trump—because he was talking about not just their issues, but their lives. But all over this union hall are pictures of Bernie Sanders. They love this man. You see that, and suddenly, you figure something out: When people ask, “Would Bernie have been able to beat Donald Trump?” The answer is, “Hell, yes.” Because these are the voters that defected, that left the Democratic Party and voted for Trump. They love Sanders. Yeah, he would’ve beaten Trump. Hell yes!


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: bernie; hillary; redstates; sanders; trump; trump2016
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What would have been interesting was for this clown to have spent time in Ohio,a state that's been carried by the winning candidate every time since 1964.He could have traveled the state asking people who voted for Obola...twice...why they voted for Trump.

Of course it would have been interesting for him to spend time in Wisconsin,Michigan and Pennsylvania.

41 posted on 04/15/2017 3:30:03 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: Pollster1
There are many terrible reasons for President Trump’s victory, but there are two things that were not a factor. First, Hillary was the perfect candidate; nothing she did harmed her candidacy in any way. Second, President Trump was the worst candidate imaginable; nothing he did helped his candidacy at all

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except with racists, sexists, bigots, and the rest of the basket of deplorablespeople who shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

IOW, no American not disposed to take a grifter’s word should be allowed to vote. Only non-citizens, and Americans who are riding the wagon instead of pulling it, should have voted.


42 posted on 04/16/2017 3:34:09 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which ‘liberalism’ coheres is that NOTHING ACTUALLY MATTERS except PR.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Always the ‘voting against your best interest’ books.
They should realize what we realize ‘ There’s No Such Thing as A Free Lunch’. In order for the Government to give you something, they must First take it from someone else.’ Those in the middle class are the only ones left to take from.


43 posted on 04/16/2017 8:27:07 AM PDT by griswold3
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nobody hates Hillery “because she’s a good lawyer”, they hate her because she is a corrupt liar.


44 posted on 04/18/2017 4:45:34 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt...


45 posted on 04/18/2017 4:47:52 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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