Pelosi: Trump wiretapping claim ‘couldn’t possibly be true’

The Hill ^ | March 10, 2017 | Mike Lillis

[2ndDivisionVet]

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) dismissed President Trump's wiretapping charges against President Obama Friday as a smokescreen designed to cloud potential ties between Trump and Russia.

“It couldn’t possibly be true, because that is not how our system works,” Pelosi said during a Christian Science Monitor breakfast in Washington.

“We do not investigate, through a FISA court, Americans — here or abroad.”

Pelosi noted that she was among the architects of revisions to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, or FISA Court, enacted after 9/11. The clandestine court overseas surveillance requests from the nation’s intelligence agencies.

“There’s much more accountability now,” she said.

“I’m not even sure he understands the whole FISA thing. … Maybe he does. But it’s complicated. And if he does, good for him. That would be one [thing he understands].”

Pelosi said Trump’s tweets were designed simply to energize his conservative base and distract from his campaign's connections to the Kremlin.

“I think that he crossed a line with that, but it’s red meat for his base. They believe almost anything that he says,” Pelosi said. “As he said, he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and nobody would even care. I think this is one example of that. He’s shooting the truth on Fifth Avenue.”

Trump last week stirred a furor when he accused his predecessor of tapping the phones in Trump Tower just before his election victory.

“This is McCarthyism!” he tweeted on March 4.

The president did not offer any evidence or further details, and White House spokesman Sean Spicer has since clarified that the administration has “no reason” to believe Trump “is the target of any investigation whatsoever.”

The episode reportedly outraged FBI Director James Comey, who asked the Justice Department to shoot down Trump’s claim with a public statement, according to The New York Times. The DOJ has refused to do so.

Pelosi on Friday said Comey should make that public statement himself.

“Theoretically, do I think a director of the FBI who knows for a fact that something is mythology but misleading to the American people and he should set the record straight?,” she asked, choosing her words carefully. “Yes I do think he should say that — publicly.”

Pelosi’s comments came a day after she met with Comey. The FBI director was on Capitol Hill for a pair of confidential meetings with the members of the so-called Gang of Eight, which includes the top leaders and Intelligence committee heads from both parties and both chambers.

Pelosi declined to comment on the substance of her meeting. But many Democrats are openly distrustful of Comey’s politics, after he announced a new leg in the FBI’s probe of Hillary Clinton

’s emails just days before the elections, which ultimately did not change the outcome of the investigation.

Pelosi on Friday also amplified the Democrats’ calls for an outside investigation into potential Trump-Russia ties.

“What do the Russians have on Donald Trump?” she asked. “What are the political, personal and financial connections to Russia? We want to know.”

The Democrats have called repeatedly for Trump to release his tax returns — a tradition upheld by presidents for more than 40 years, but one which Trump has rejected — and Pelosi on Friday amplified that call.

“I don’t understand why our Republican colleagues are so afraid of the truth. … They have just come to the defense of this president,” she said. “Two-thirds of the American people think differently, and we will be putting them to that vote each week as we lead up to April 15.”

[Mr. K]

She must be one scary witch if they can’t get rid of her as their ‘leader’

[gov_bean_ counter]

No kidding. She was able to turn a newt into a ....

[headstamp 2]

They lie effortlessly because they live in an alternate reality.

[ifinnegan]

“It couldn’t possibly be true, because that is not how our system works”

I guess that settles it.

[Da Coyote]

She’s got it all: fugly, stupid, no morals, never had a real job, no personality, can’t spell “truth”, and is - naturally - a democrat.

The only thing she (or, more properly, it) could qualify for is....Senator!!

[Attention Surplus Disorder]

An encounter with “the logic of Nancy Pelosi”.

Earlier today, on a walk, I had another encounter with the logic of Nancy Pelosi. Fortunately, the responsible neighbor had brought along a plastic bag and a scoop and picked it up and placed it into a container no doubt paid for by highway trust funds.

[BenLurkin]

Wasn’t she the one who claimed that if the US putt an end to illegal immigration there would be no more taco restaurants?

[pepsi_junkie]

She means it could not possibly be legal. That’s what makes it a scandal.

[eyeamok]

Amazing how they say they have transcripts of Surveillance on Trump Tower but NONE of it could true because it never happened???

Did I get that Right??

[mewzilla]

That is an incredibly verbose non-denial denial.

[maggief]

“We do not investigate, through a FISA court, Americans — here or abroad.”

Translation:

We do investigate, without a FISA court, Americans — here or abroad.

[ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton]

I was on the fence but after this, I am sure it happened.

[Grampa Dave]

"She must be one scary witch if they can’t get rid of her as their ‘leader’!

A recent article in a Gay Bay fishwrap, reported that Nancy Pelosi has sued Stanford Hospital saying that after her husband had surgery there, he lost all interest in sex.

A hospital spokesman replied, "Your husband was admitted for cataract surgery and early deafness. All we did was correct his eyesight and install a miniature hearing device.

Sex deprived Pelosi grabs Russian President by the arm and then denies that she ever met him!

Thanks to VVayne for this medical picture of patient abuse of Botox and Plastic Surgery!

Speaking of rat incompetents, was the Clown Chuckie seen leaving the back door of a NYC AIDS clinic?

[Grampa Dave]

“We do not investigate, through a FISA court, Americans — here or abroad.” Said Pelosi!

There have been and still are legal ways to monitor any American without a FISA or having the President, Att Gen, or FBI Director getting their hands dirty.

So did 0 have a foreign govt spy on President Elect Trump and then give the info if any to (0) ?

There are semi legal exceptions for spying from physical locations outside of the US.

The precedents were started with/by Harry Truman.

"This has been basically going on since Truman got rid of the OSS and formed the CIA and NSA. Part of their charters was not to spy on or monitor Americans."

So, we monitored Brits, Aussies, Kiwis and Canutes and they monitored our citizens to get around those bans re not monitoring your own citizens. America and the 4 countries mentioned above, formed the 5 Eyes.

So here is how this could have gone down. Obama asks Clapper privately to monitor Trump Tower and Trump. Or Obama asked Lynch to ask Clapper to monitor Trump Tower and Trump.

Then, Clapper could have asked Canada, the UK, Australia or New Zealand to spy on Trump and any American or Americans without ordering it to be done by the NSA or FBI. Leaving Obama able to say, “I didn’t order the spying on Trump Tower, or as Nixon said decades ago, “I am not a crook!”

This has been going on for decades starting with #1 through #3 below:

1. Project 5 eyes

2. Project Echelon

3. Project Prism

4. Muscular the current program run by the Brit’s GCHQ and probably financed by the CIA.

#1 and #2 go back to the early days after President Truman got rid of the OSS and established the CIA and the NSA.

As noted, neither agency, CIA/NSA were supposed to spy or monitor American citizens as per their charters.

With 5 eyes, we would/could spy on the UK/Brits, Australians, Kiwis and Canadians and let the mother countries know when they might have problems. Then, they would monitor American citizens like Trump, his people and you, for us and give the the data on those American Citizens and you

Supposedly the countries mentioned above can’t spy on their own people. Our NSA/CIA/? Could do that for our 5 EYE buddies and report back to the mother country if there was a problem with their citizens or you!

Echelon came about a little later. With the 5 eyes lateral spying agreement, Echelon became solidified and very functional for decades. We monitored their citizens, and they monitored our citizens like candidate Trump his people and you. ,

Prism supposedly replaced 5 eyes and Echelon, but the 5 Eyes/Echelon concept was/is still there.

Muscular is one of the current joint programs run by the Brit’s GCHQ and probably financed by the CIA.

So Obama would not had to ask NSA/FBI to spy on Trump. He could have had Clapper ask his counterpart in the UK or Canada or any of other 5 Eye countries to monitor Trump Towers and listen in to what was said. At this point, it was probably the Brits GCHQ and its MUSCULAR program.

The FBI may have put bugs in or set up electronic interceptions at Trump Towers for their Canadian intel counterparts to monitor all verbal and digital transmission to and from Trump Tower in October of last year until this year up to Trump becoming President. There is minimal need for bugs with today's state of electronic monitoring from afar.

So did GB/GCHQ monitor Trump, his people, and you in Trump Towers, in NYC, and then report back to Obama, NSA, FBI and ?. If so, Obama could deny that he ordered the spying?

Obama is playing a game by saying he didn’t order the FBI?NSA to spy on candidate Trump and his people. Obama probably had Clapper or ? ask his Brit/Canadian counterparts to spy on Trump and his people. Or he had Lynch ask Clapper. Then, Clapper asked Brits/GCHQ or one of other 5 Eye countries to monitor Trump Tower, Trump, his people and you!

Have fun with this data! Don’t try searching for this late at night to avoid getting insomnia. Take a baby aspirin to keep from stroking out.

Remember Clapper is probably somehow involved and is a first class liar.

Lynch may have gotten involved while exchanging pictures of grandkids with Bubba in her plane in Arizona.

[Dr. Bogus Pachysandra]

There’s a Verboose on the loose!

[Grampa Dave]

“It couldn’t possibly be true, because that is not how our system works,” Pelosi said during a Christian Science Monitor breakfast in Washington.

“We do not investigate, through a FISA court, Americans — here or abroad.”

Well Nancy how about this program:

MUSCULAR (surveillance program)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

MUSCULAR (DS-200B), located in the United Kingdom,[1] is the name of a surveillance programme jointly operated by Britain’s Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) and the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) that was revealed by documents which were released by Edward Snowden and interviews with knowledgeable officials.[2] GCHQ is the primary operator of the program.[1]GCHQ and the National Security Agency have secretly broken into the main communications links that connect the data centers of Yahoo! and Google.[3]Substantive information about the program was made public at the end of October 2013.
Contents

1Overview
2Operational details
3Reactions and countermeasures
4Gallery
5See also
6References
7External links
Overview[edit]

The programme is jointly run by:
– Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) (United Kingdom)
– U.S. National Security Agency (NSA)
MUSCULAR is one of at least four other similar programs that rely on a trusted 2nd party, programs which together are known as WINDSTOP. In a 30-day period from December 2012 to January 2013, MUSCULAR was responsible for collecting 181 million records. It was however dwarfed by another WINDSTOP program known (insofar) only by its code DS-300 and codename INCENSER, which collected over 14 billion records in the same period.[4]

Operational details:

According to the leaked document the NSA’s acquisitions directorate sends millions of records every day from internal Yahoo! and Google networks to data warehouses at the agency’s headquarters at Fort Meade, Maryland. The programme operates via an access point known as DS-200B, which is outside the United States, and it relies on an unnamed telecommunications operator to provide secret access for the NSA and the GCHQ.[3]

According to the Washington Post, the MUSCULAR program collects more than twice as many data points (“selectors” in NSA jargon) compared to the better known PRISM.[2] Unlike PRISM, the MUSCULAR program requires no (FISA or other type of) warrants.

Because of the huge amount of data involved, MUSCULAR has presented a special challenge to NSA’s Special Source Operations. For example, when Yahoo! decided to migrate a large amount of mailboxes between its data centers, the NSA’s PINWALE database (their primary analytical database for the Internet) was quickly overwhelmed with the data coming from MUSCULAR.[5]

Closely related programmes are called INCENSER and TURMOIL. TURMOIL, belonging to the NSA, is a system for processing the data collected from MUSCULAR.[1]

According to a post-it style note from the presentation, the exploitation relied on the fact that (at the time at least) data was transmitted unencrypted inside Google’s private cloud, with “Google Front End Servers” stripping and respectively adding back SSL from/to external connections. According to the Washington Post: “Two engineers with close ties to Google exploded in profanity when they saw the drawing.” After the information about MUSCULAR was published by the press, Google announced that it was working on deploying encrypted communication between its datacenters.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUSCULAR_(surveillance_program)

[ProtectOurFreedom]

And there’s “Not even a smidgeon of evidence” to paraphrase her idol.

[onedoug]

Megaphone fag accessory....