Posted on 08/29/2016 10:48:56 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Trumps voters (and many are staying mum) are well aware of his flaws and might carry him to victory anyway.
For what it is worth: Nothing is ever certain, and much could go wrong, but my money remains on a Trump victory. Why?
1) It feels a whole lot like Reagan in 80 and Newt in 94.
Reagan was disliked by the establishment (who liked Baker or Bush), viewed with suspicion by professional conservatives (they liked Phil Crane, not a divorced, former Democrat, big-spending governor), and regarded with condescension by the media and the Left (who saw him as stupid and as a dangerous cowboy). Those camps could not fathom the breadth and depth of his popular momentum. Ditto the GOPs taking the House in 94 I was on CNN five weeks prior to that election and produced outright guffaws and rolled eyes from everyone when I said that the GOP would win not only the Senate but also the House.
The signs were all there, but because the idea seemed so preposterous, many analysts couldnt see them. More recently, Matt Bevin was left for dead by most of the smart money in his race for Kentucky governor, and Brexit was sure not to pass. Trump is an extension of that zeitgeist for many a long-awaited reclaiming of control of their lives, their country, their self-identity.
2) Who are you going to believe, polls or your lying eyes? I started asking people in the spring whom they were voting for. A surprisingly large percentage of not-supposed-to-be-a-Trump-supporter types turned out to be exactly that. That includes rich and highly educated people, women, blacks, Hispanics, and Muslims. A bunch of anecdotes, but interesting. Everyone keeps saying this election is about Trump. But I have come to believe it really is about his supporters, who to a person are deeply versed in all his flaws and faults and support him regardless. For them, this is about one or more of the following: deep antipathy for Hillary and all she represents and would do; disappointment with a broken system they feel has ignored them and in some cases harmed them for years; a desire to reclaim the country and their own lives and personhood. They genuinely love and worry about their country, and they want to feel proud again to be an American.
3) If what got incinerated was a phoenix, dont bet against it rising. If youve seen someone succeed at something five or six or nine times, how smart is it to bet they wont do it the tenth time? How many times was seemingly everyone sure that Trump was finished only to see him come back stronger than before? Many of us missed, time and again, the meta messages Trump was sending that galvanize his support, and many miss it still.
4) Enter the stages of grief. For two-thirds of GOP voters, Trump wasnt just another candidate he was the one potentially viable candidate they feared. So with Trump triumphant, enter the stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and, finally, acceptance each person cycling through at his or her own pace. You can tell that many are at the nadir of depression by the way those who are the most depressed about Trump interpret him. Having a predisposition, as understandable as it might be, can hinder our understanding of what is happening. If someone starts with the assumption that Trump is ignorant, stupid, or dangerous, it rules out considering the possibility that comments such as founders of ISIS could simply be brilliant hyperbole. In contrast, allowing the idea that Trump is actually as smart as his overall track record, even discounted, indicates, permits the perspective that his repeated gaffes are a purposeful and calculated strategy to garner millions of dollars in free media, wherein his larger point gets made for him, over and over. Thats no mean feat in a media environment stacked in favor of the Left and Democrats and against conservatives and any GOP nominee.
5) Its still summer. I have found that many folks who are normally GOP voters but who are unhappy about Trump largely fall into two camps. The first are those who object because Trump isnt solidly, reliably conservative on their priority issues. The second are those who, at bottom, find Trump personally objectionable, as does almost everyone they know, so they feel that the prospect of supporting him would violate the way they see themselves and wish to have others think of them. These are real concerns that even many Trump supporters say they have worked through. But if people are hitting despair in August, that means they have September and October to move to acceptance. Why would they? Because Hillarys presidency and all it implies will become so much more real.
Given the choice between someone who will get pretty much every policy decision wrong and someone who might get some of them right, more and more people who now cant see voting for Trump will decide that on the lesser of two evils spectrum, they will be a Trump voter, even if they are not a Trump supporter. One cannot discount the barrage of negative ads that will come against Trump. And who knows what new revelations will shift the ground yet again? But particularly with more and more Clinton pay-to-play revelations, if by early October the social opprobrium shifts from how could I possibly support him? to how could I possibly enable her? then Republicans will win the presidency.
Agreed. It has a feel. No one really wants Hillary. Will they show up for her? I don’t think so.
Link no good-was story removed?
Now Heather needs to thaw out the others at National Review who are frozen in horror at the notion of a Trump win.
I feel the pollsters and pundits will be left scratching their heads in November.
The “sign” that tells me Trump is absolutely feared by his opponents and feared because they believe he can win is this:
I have never seen the media actually become part of a campaign on a 24/7 basis than I’ve seen this year. 95% of media reports are wildly and blatantly biased for Hillary and anti-Trump - it’s amazing. That tells me something, they are pooping in their pants.
Ding Ding Ding... Hillary will get the people who would vote D no matter what.. but there is ZERO enthusiasm for her... polling is modeling 2012 models and they are completely incorrect.... I don’t see any path to her winning...
Trump wins, wins big...
Tell me, unless this is your first time voting, who, who is undecided about Hillary? You know her, you aren’t undecided, if you are going to vote for her you have already decided to... so any undecideds will break big for Trump.
This thing is only a race right now because Trump is only at about 75% support among republicans... he’s up 10-20% among independents. THat 25% of republicans are the ones going through the stages of grief, most by election day will come around... some, who have a vested interest in the existing corrupt system wont, but most of that 25% will come home... and assuming this is a correct read, Trump wins HANDILY.
I don’t think this thing is going to be close...
DNC Leaks will keep happening, Hillary will keep lying and getting caught...obvious systemic corruption of the system, EPI PEN headlines anyone? Will continue to reinforce Trump’s narrative... Islamic Terror Attacks will continue to happen... etc etc...
I just see no calculus where Hillary even gets a good showing, let alone a win.
Tyranny or Trump, make your choice and do not forget the Supreme Court. If we loose the court, we are doomed.
Betcha there’s plenty of room at her lunch table in the National Review cafeteria...
I’m glad to see this published in NR. Looks like they’re moving through the stages of grief and coming to realize the obvious. Now, let’s see VDH and Andy McCarthy get the message and get on the Trump train.
A pity this article didn’t appear in National Review before I let my subscription lapsed due to their hysterical editorials on Donald Trump.
That was wordy.
Well, well, well... NR has tried their best to defeat and utterly humiliate Trump and now they are predicting a Trump win.
He didn’t write it.....
This is not a normal political party election and Trump is going to win.
Was chatting with a some FReepers awhile back, regarding just this. I was wishy-washy on Trump, they helped sharpen my opinion.
They pointed out that I don't need to *like* the guy, I need to decide if he'll do a good job as president. And, given his track record as a businessman - particularly in how he surrounds himself with good people - I think that he'll do OK. Ergo, he has my vote.
Figure that any Chief Exec, corporate or otherwise, is measured not by what he does personally, but by what's accomplished on his watch. So long as he picks good people to do the work, and delegates to them, he'll be fine.
Who he? I was referring to the article. Heather sounds like a she to me.
I see...It seemed you were referring to 2nd Div....
” I was on CNN five weeks prior to that election and produced outright guffaws and rolled eyes from everyone when I said that the GOP would win not only the Senate but also the House.”
While searching for info to comment I came across a FR post by some guy named “faucetman”
I’ll quote part of it here.
from 2012:
“I first became aware of this poll in 1994. I was watching a roundtable discussion on C Span with a dozen (or more) pollsters. They went down the line asking the pollsters to predict the expected gains for each party. The Democrat pollsters naturally predicted modest gains for Republicans. Republican pollsters naturally predicted larger gains. When they got to Ed Goaz (The Republican half of The Battleground Poll), he said (I don’t remember the exact amount) something like 40 or more House seats. Everyone else on the panel burst into laughter.
As we now know, it was a Republican LANDSLIDE taking control of the House for the first time in 40 years, gaining 54 seats. (8 Senate seats)”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2937999/posts
The polls CAN be wrong, especially this year with the absolute hatred toward Trump and the establishment seeing that they could actually lose their power.
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