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There’s no writing off Donald Trump in polarised white America
The South China Morning Post ^ | August 2, 2016 | Niall Ferguson

Posted on 08/02/2016 12:38:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Niall Ferguson says the Republican presidential nominee has emerged as a champion of the disgruntled lower classes, who – though poorer and less educated than the nation’s elite – are legion

In his brilliant and prophetic 2011 book, Coming Apart, my friend Charles Murray identified the stark social division that is defining this year’s US presidential election. Murray’s book was unabashedly about “the state of white America”. The white population of the US, he argued, is more polarised than at any time in the past half century. On the one hand, there is a “cognitive elite”, who are educated at universities like Harvard and Yale, marry each other, work together and live in the same exclusive neighbourhoods. These people are politically more liberal than the national average, as well as much richer.

On the other side of this social chasm is a new lower class: white Americans with nothing more than a high school diploma, if that. In a masterstroke of exposition, Murray vividly localised his argument by imagining two emblematic communities: Belmont, where everyone has at least one university degree, and Fishtown, where no one has any....

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TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: hillary; trump; whites
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1 posted on 08/02/2016 12:38:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Well this sounds good except that everyone I know who is voting Trump has one or more college degrees.


2 posted on 08/02/2016 12:44:00 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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On the down side of Charlie Murray’s theory, since elites spurn their secretaries these days and marry the lawyer down the hall, they end up with a woman who looks like Hillary and a daughter who looks like Chelsea. The uglification of America!


3 posted on 08/02/2016 12:44:53 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IOW, Obama made Trump possible.


4 posted on 08/02/2016 12:45:00 PM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sooo, I’m sensing that good ol’ Niall is a Belmont guy and I, and others here are denizens of Fishtown. Do I have that right?

What a crock of Obama.


5 posted on 08/02/2016 12:45:31 PM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long .as it's mandatory.)
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On the one hand, there is a “cognitive elite”, who are educated at universities like Harvard and Yale

Now there is some crap! The ones that went to Harvard and Yale have created the mess we are in. Going to an elite university often means you paid excessively high tuition to get indoctrinated with PC crap and still came out ignorant of reality.

6 posted on 08/02/2016 12:45:54 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Don’t goof up their “Trump has the hillbillies” meme.


7 posted on 08/02/2016 12:46:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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My circle of friends and former classmates are all highly educated MBAs/PhDs/MDs etc. but, have retained "common sense" and are supporting Trump for the sake of the survival of the USA! The concept that, essentially, Trump is supported by "Poor White Trash" is an elitist meme and delusional! We'll all see in November...
8 posted on 08/02/2016 12:47:25 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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Funny. Just yesterday watched Charles Murray discussing this book on Uncommon Knowledge:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q3zy4NRzz4


9 posted on 08/02/2016 12:47:46 PM PDT by Huck (BE STRONG. DO NOT SHOW THE ENEMY YOUR FEAR. FIGHT AND WIN. TRUMP 2016)
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It’s all us ignernt white trash hillbillies who support Trump, you see.


10 posted on 08/02/2016 12:47:53 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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All one has to do to see where the intelligence is, is to view the voters in the heavily democratic districts. Its where all the geniuses vote according to the democrats who seem to say they have a monopoly on intelligence.


11 posted on 08/02/2016 12:48:58 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (HILLARY 2016 - SERIOUSLY? What are they thinking?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeh I hate to rain on that parade. :-)


12 posted on 08/02/2016 12:49:34 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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I think I would rather spend a Saturday Night
in Fishtown, than a month of Sundays in Belmont.

It’s true, I’m not collegiate but I have learned
a lot in 70 years...


13 posted on 08/02/2016 12:50:20 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why news from China Newspaper?


14 posted on 08/02/2016 12:51:01 PM PDT by jennychase
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To: Georgia Girl 2
everyone I know who is voting Trump has one or more college degrees.

Well, are they elite college degrees? If they went to Fishtown University and came out knowing there is a right and a wrong and that there is no free lunch, well what good is that? They need to go to an elite college to really be able to exercise leadership, AS THEY ARE ENTITLED TO DO!

15 posted on 08/02/2016 12:51:07 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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Everyone should read Coming Apart and Murray’s other works, but I would point out that Trump leads among college educated white men by double digits in some polls, so the idea that he only appeals to Fishtown is wrong. Moreover, I believe that a more disciplined candidate, i.e., someone who doesn’t shoot himself in the d!ck at every opportunity, would recapture the support of most college educated white women using Trump’s brand of white populism.


16 posted on 08/02/2016 12:51:22 PM PDT by Toliph
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“It’s all us ignernt white trash hillbillies who support Trump, you see.”

Liberal elite a-holes:”Well, you didn’t go to COLUMBIA, like me, so you’re just not smart enough to understand the issues. I care about you, so let me explain them to you!

F them!!


17 posted on 08/02/2016 12:52:09 PM PDT by Batman11 ( All Muslims are not terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslim!)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Going to an elite university often means you paid excessively high tuition to get indoctrinated with PC crap and still came out ignorant of reality. .......................... It really means you are being taught by some leftist professor who is there to influence you to vote as a liberal. They may be teaching advance mathematics but you can get the same education in a non Ivy league school, since they use the same text books without the subliminal political indoctrination. (Hopefully)


18 posted on 08/02/2016 12:53:58 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (HILLARY 2016 - SERIOUSLY? What are they thinking?)
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To: jennychase

I post articles from India, Germany, Britain, the Philippines, Venezuela, Canada and many others. News is news. You’ll notice that the author is the furthest thing from Chinese.


19 posted on 08/02/2016 12:55:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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Yahoo article. Funny how they do not have any articles on the corrupt democrats that have resulted in millions of deaths worldwide from their crazy policies over the years.

‘Is Donald Trump plain crazy?’ Big-name writers now questioning GOP nominee’s sanity
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-sanity-mental-health-000000384.html


20 posted on 08/02/2016 12:55:58 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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