Posted on 04/03/2016 6:12:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
What rich irony, if one of the most calculating politicians in modern American politics miscalculated the will of Wisconsin's Republican voters, something Democrats have done repeatedly since 2010.
If Donald Trump loses Wisconsin's primary on Tuesday, it will not be because of the uproar over his comments about Ted Cruz's wife, Heidi. Or his reaction to the confrontation with a female reporter that led to an arrest summons for his campaign manager. Or even his suggestion that women who get abortions should face “some form of punishment” if Roe v. Wade is overturned.
Instead, it will be his misunderstanding of Badger State conservatives' deep relationship with their elected officials, one that does not take well to outsiders trying to divide them from the people they worked so hard to put and keep in office.
Trump ran into a buzz saw in Wisconsin last week when he went on the local talk-radio circuit, which is staunchly conservative and widely influences Republican voters — very different from national talk-show hosts who don't ask him tough questions and lean toward rabble-rousing rather than ideological discussions....
(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...
I’ve only joined freerepublic recently, but my mother had read it forever, and I got involved because this is the first primary I’ve ever been passionate about, and will be my first primary vote when PA votes on the 26th. The passion on both sides has caused people to get a bit angry and nasty, but I believe we need to unite against the establishment and rally behind the one man who can win the 1237 outright at this point. Honestly, if Cruz was ahead by as much as Trump, I’d be saying the same thing for him...but he isnt, and
I’ve personally witnessed the passion for Trump in my own county. 2600 Dems switched to Rep this year in my county, the avg previously was only 200. And it’s happening all over my state and the country.
Doesn’t it at least show we should give Trump a chance? We’ve given lawyers and senators plenty, can’t we at least agree he has the best chance at real change?
I asked you to support your claim and you refused to.
Which is to say, "you can't".
Thank you to you as well. I didn’t look to see who your candidate is, but my primary concern at this point is that the establishment is not allowed to steal the nomination. I am as guilty as anyone of fighting hard around here, but I think it is time for us to all start taking a realistic look at what the likely outcomes are going to be.
,Then we need to start working together to make sure that even if things are not turning out quite as we had imagined that the country has the best chance of getting off the path to certain destruction.
In fact, you didn't ask me to do anything.
Which is to say, your stream of consciousness is disconnected.
Twice disconnected since I followed to your non-answer with precisely your own words, copied and pasted, mocking your non-response, and now you criticize your words.
Seems like that's indicative of the thought process you're using to select your candidate. Disconnected from outside input, mocking itself from the inside.
Have I missed something? I don't think so. Or as you'd say ... "No, not at all."
Enough with the nonsense.
You said that the only way that Cruz can get nomination is for him to grant the GOPe their will.
I said that I disagree.
You gave an opinion and I responded with an opinion. Yet it seems to bother you that I simply responded in kind.
Now if you are really interested in having a conversation then by all means support your claim with some facts. And then I'll kindly respond with facts supporting my claim.
Honest to God! I laugh when I see these screeds about WI, but ignore Cruz getting his a** kicked on Super Tuesday.
Won’t bother to read the replies, I’m guessing it’s the cruzettes doing battle over imaginary issues yet again.
Poor Teddy, that chain around his neck must be getting tight. Weak little man, owned by others and no where to turn. WOOF
“Trump ran into a buzz saw in Wisconsin last week when he went on the local talk-radio circuit, ....”
Trump is just not quick on his feet. Can you imagine what the liberal MSM would do to him if he won the nomination.
Let’s hope he does not.
Oh goody, Selena’s a freeper! One more poster who can’t tell fact from fiction, but hey, all hail the Cruzette freepers!
Here’s another example which shows Donald Trump just does not get the issues.
“Attention Donald Trump: Killing 330,000 Babies Outweighs Any Good Planned Parenthood Does
National Steven Ertelt Mar 14, 2016 (snip)
For most people it’s not ok to kill kids so long as you have a good marketing program, powerful political connections, or do a few “cancer screenings” that most can get from a local community center which isn’t tainted with the blood of the abortion industry.....’”
Simple answer is no
Wisconsin was going to be a tough state for Trump......
And remember Cruz was born near by in Canada and this gives him favored son points.
And they don’t call them cheese heads for nothing!
People have been predicting Trumps Waterloo since last May, almost a year ago.
Fox News Poll yesterday indicate that Trump has an 11 point lead over Cruz among independent voters in Wisconsin, and we know that Trump can bring out a 30% to 50% increase in independent voters from the experience in other states.
No, there will be no Waterloo for Trump in Wisconsin. The Waterloo will be for Kasich and the RNC eGOP who want a 7 round vote in a brokered convention so that Kasich or Paul Ryan can get the nomination. Thats the Waterloo that will happen tommorrow.
Trump will do well, he will take at least 45% to 50% of the Wisconsin vote. Cruz will likely come in a distant second because of Kasich.
Cruz has become quite upset by Kasich because of his late breaking numbers.Its not Trump knocking the shite out of Cruz, its Kasich.
WI loss should it happen is no Waterloo.... 2 weeks later NY votes and Trump steamrolls Cruz once more. Why people seem so incapable of doing simple math is a testament to the systemic failure of the public school system over the last 40+ years.
Simple math... Trump needs 55% of the remaining delegates... That means between NY and WI he would need to capture 75 delegates to stay on target. He will do this easily even if he loses WI.
There is no path for Cruz to the nomination. He cannot reach 1237 and if the convention is contested You are going to see the GOPe put in one of their guys. It will not be Cruz nor Trump nor Casich if you wind up with a contested convention.
Cruzand his supporters are fighting a lost cause at this point, and his actions in doing it have ensured him that he’ll never be able to mount a serious campaign for the presidency again. After this is all said and done, I bet Cruz won’t even win re election to the Senate in 2018. At this point even TX has to be embarrassed of their Jr Senator.
He’ll win reelection in a landslide, should it come to that.
Tomorrow we see how WI goes, but I have said for a long time if I were to predict a surprise out of WI it would be Kasich outperforming his polls there. I think WI will be close either way, regardless who wins it will be close any poll showing double digits for anyone is just crazy.
The election there will boil down to turnout... Who shows up will determine the winner, however it will be close either way.... The surprise story in my mind will be Kasich easily topping his 20% poll numbers. He won’t get enough to win, but I expect him to well overperform his polling.
We will see, but I doubt it. He couldn’t even muster 40% in the primary. It is an off year election in 18 though so he may win... But he’s basically destroyed himself this cycle. I think he’s an easy primary take out in 18 if the powers that be decide to be done with him.
The surprise story in my mind will be Kasich easily topping his 20% poll numbers. He won’t get enough to win, but I expect him to well over perform his polling.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Exactly, and that will hurt Cruz badly. Cruz and Kasich have to share the same demographic, while Trump draws his votes from very different demographics.
If Trump gets over the 50% mark while Kasich and Cruz duke it out, then that’s a Wisconsin sweep for Trump. All that has to happen is 51% Trump, 26% Kasich and 23% Cruz. There is a very good chance that is what is about to happen.
We live in interesting times, watching all that eGOP money whacking away at Trump, just making him stronger.Didn’t work in Florida, and will not work in Wisconsin either.
While I do agree to a point, I really don’t think anyone will take WI by double digits, let alone get 50% of the overall vote.
I really think after the last few weeks, where Trump and Cruz have both looked aweful, based on my time and experience in wisconsin a lot of folks will just say screw the two “buffoons” and vote for Kasich as a protest vote.
We’ll see how it plays out, but I really don’t think anyone is winning WI by 10+ points or topping 50% of the overall vote there.
Now NY.. that’s another story.
+1
If you are comparing to Wellington, then yes.
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