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Cruz Wanted a Border Wall in 2012 While Trump Was Still Lobbying for Amnesty [VIDEOS]
Soshble ^ | February 8, 2016 | JD Rucker

Posted on 03/22/2016 1:14:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The only defense that he and his supporters can muster is that he has "evolved" on his beliefs of nearly seven decades. This is awfully convenient, of course, considering that his new talking points match the narrative that is required to stir up what psychologists are calling the "authoritarian wing" of the Republican party. These are the Republicans who are angry about what the government is doing and who want someone strong to tell them what to think and how to act. It's the daddy-issues wing of the party - those who know enough to want change but who don't take the time to research the claims of their chosen candidate.

These people won't be reached. Instead, we're appealing to the curious- but thoughtful-Republicans who are interested in hearing what Trump has to say but who won't follow him blindly based upon the unlikely claim that he's erased 67-years of liberalism just in time to be Mr. Conservative. They will research him and come to the conclusion that he was pro-amnesty less than two years before his infamous anti-immigrant rant when he launched his campaign....

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To: paintriot
I have seen Cruz on both sides of the issue.

And trump?
“I would close up our borders to people until we figure out what is going on”

"I didn't say shut it down, I said you have to be very careful. We have to be very, very strong and vigilant at the borders. We have to be tough. We have people who are coming into our country who are undocumented. We have no idea who they are or where they come from. They could be ISIS-related."

"You misunderstood. I said they should be closed to people without documentation, especially from radicalized countries like Syria."

“Well, that’s why we need a ban on all Muslims for awhile,”

Everything for everyone, pick and chose what you want to believe!

81 posted on 03/22/2016 2:27:57 PM PDT by 94Revolution (Get it right this time)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Cruz Wanted a Border Wall in 2012 While Trump Was Still Lobbying for Amnesty

The past has no impact, only what is done when/if one of them sits in the Oval Office. Rafael "Ted" Cruz apparently is in the midst of an about face on immigration to please his new masters.

82 posted on 03/22/2016 2:28:40 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Baraq Hussein 0bama has made AMERICANS CITIZENS second class occupants in their own country.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Cruz has been all over the map with this. The general message is that his sponsors don't really want border control.

On Immigration, Cruz Aims for Middle Ground

83 posted on 03/22/2016 2:29:08 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Boogieman

The bill authorizing and funding the border fence was already passed, in 2007, long before
Cruz joined the Senate. We don’t need to pass any more laws, we just need an administration
willing to implement the law.

*************

Yep that was for some 700 miles of double layered fence of which about 600 miles or so was
finally completed. No additional money has been authorized since for any additional fencing,
walls, or barriers that I find.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006


84 posted on 03/22/2016 2:30:36 PM PDT by deport
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Link?


85 posted on 03/22/2016 2:30:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The entire world isn’t talking about Cruz’s “whatever” circa 2012. The far leftists who are in an unholy alliance with radical Islam aren’t attacking Cruz for talking about “whatever” circa 2012.

The entire world is talking about Trump and his world shaking strong stance against Islamic terrorism, his bravery in hringing the issue of so-called “Syrian refugees” and the invasion of Muslim men of military age into the West, the consequences of this and the need for a moratorium on all such “immigration” and “refugees” until our leaders figure out what the hell is going on, he led the way bringing this and the entire cultural genocide of America and the West with open borders, illegal and criminal aliens, he brought all this front and center to this election, not that creep Cruz who is now blaming Trump for the leftist cummunist muslim loving rabble in the street from which, mark my words, from that nest of Islamic operatives and their BLM and cop hating communists will come the next bombing or terror attack, it was and is Donald Trump and not the politician Ted Cruz that bravely brought these issues front and center to this csmpaign while now creepy Cruz blames Trump for this horrific terrorist attack, I have never seen such an opportunist creep and his bizarre rag tag of nutty flatulence from Beck and Levin and the likes of so many of these Cruz “supporters” who want at this very moment not to attack the Islamists that Trump so bravely stood up to and these imps of Cruz and their Palestine this verse Palestinian that and their idiot clinging to NATO and their Merkel collaborators of this genocide of Western culture who will not step up to the plate just to find any stupid waste of time to yet again attack Trump at a time we hear the audio of a child crying who had a mother of this child have her face ripped half off from an ISIS nail bomb in the heart of Europe, my God you Moonies are really beyond the pale.

The whole world is talking about Trump talking tough, not Cruz. Stop trying to steal Trump’s thunder by hitching to his bravery as he is attacked for his bravery then join in like little imps attacking Trump, stop being such disgusting imps of trying to kill the messanger, just get lost, you didn’t capture the message nor project the message, not you and not that creepy politician Cruz.

NOT CRUZ, IT IS TRUMP. It is Trump that the Belgian police say they support, not Cruz. It is Trump that the Republican base says they support, not Cruz. It is Trump that the world talks about, not Cruz. Take your 2012 this or that and your conniving concubines of a brokered convention and stick it where the sun don’t shine and quite trying to hijack Trump.


86 posted on 03/22/2016 2:30:54 PM PDT by ShivaFan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

... and in 2013 Cruz wanted ...

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cruz-pushed-for-doubling-of-immigrants-including-muslims-to-1.67m-per-year/article/2586500


87 posted on 03/22/2016 2:32:48 PM PDT by Quicksilver
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To: ShivaFan

Forgive me, but when I read the last paragraph I heard the voice of the ‘stop picking on Brittany’ boy/girl/thing.


88 posted on 03/22/2016 2:42:52 PM PDT by 94Revolution (Get it right this time)
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To: Boogieman
PS....

The Secure Fence Act was for the western portion of the border running along a land border. It will be interesting to see what developes with regards to the Texas portion which involves the Rio Grande River which uses the middle of the river as the border. So do you build the border wall on the Texas side and cede the Rio Grande to Mexico or devise some other type barrier. Personally I think with enough money you could patrol that part of the border 24/7 and use lighting, etc and become effect. Not all the distance needs 24/7 patolling because of the natural barriers, clift walls, etc.

For sure it needs much better contruction than what has existed.


89 posted on 03/22/2016 2:53:00 PM PDT by deport
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Don't give me this crap. Cruz pushed for doubling of immigrants, including Muslims, to 1.67M PER YEAR - Washington Examiner 3/22/2016 "Plans pushed by GOP presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz under the immigration reform debate in 2013 would have jumped the number of immigrants, including those from Muslim nations, by doubling green card caps and boosting temporary worker visas five-fold." "Under the Cruz plan, yearly legal immigration would have gone from 740,000 to 1,675,000."
90 posted on 03/22/2016 2:53:49 PM PDT by ShivaFan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

91 posted on 03/22/2016 2:54:18 PM PDT by JediJones (I'm with Ted Cruz, Mark Levin, Dana Loesch, Steve Deace, Michelle Malkin, James Woods & Ben Shapiro)
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To: ShivaFan

Since when did Trump say he would limit legal immigration? He’s saying even the ones he deports can come back legally.


92 posted on 03/22/2016 2:55:48 PM PDT by JediJones (I'm with Ted Cruz, Mark Levin, Dana Loesch, Steve Deace, Michelle Malkin, James Woods & Ben Shapiro)
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To: deport

Stock the river with crocs?


93 posted on 03/22/2016 2:56:51 PM PDT by JediJones (I'm with Ted Cruz, Mark Levin, Dana Loesch, Steve Deace, Michelle Malkin, James Woods & Ben Shapiro)
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To: Boogieman
Exactly. Nobody said "wall" until Trump. The headline is a lie. A fence can be anything.

Fence

Wall.

94 posted on 03/22/2016 2:58:10 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: deport

95 posted on 03/22/2016 2:58:38 PM PDT by JediJones (I'm with Ted Cruz, Mark Levin, Dana Loesch, Steve Deace, Michelle Malkin, James Woods & Ben Shapiro)
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To: JediJones

JediJones. Anti-American. Pro-illegal alien. Cruznadian.


96 posted on 03/22/2016 3:00:31 PM PDT by Vision Thing
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To: Hugin
Nobody said "wall" until Trump. The headline is a lie.

Nope, you're lying.

And as far back as 2012, while engaged in a primary competition for his current Senate seat, Cruz told voters during a debate that "we have an illegal immigration crisis and we have to do everything humanly possible to secure the border -- that means fences, that means walls."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-cruz-didnt-give-me-credit-for-border-wall-idea/

97 posted on 03/22/2016 3:06:52 PM PDT by JediJones (I'm with Ted Cruz, Mark Levin, Dana Loesch, Steve Deace, Michelle Malkin, James Woods & Ben Shapiro)
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To: Vision Thing

Nope, unlike Trump I’m an immigration hard-liner who will not allow the deportees to come back in after being deported.


98 posted on 03/22/2016 3:07:45 PM PDT by JediJones (I'm with Ted Cruz, Mark Levin, Dana Loesch, Steve Deace, Michelle Malkin, James Woods & Ben Shapiro)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Comments?”

Sure, Cruz SHUT HIS TRAP on the wall, once the big-money GOPe’s told him their TERMS AND CONDITIONS to open their wallets.

That’s why it took TRUMP to get the issue moving. While, Cruz was the only other inclined to take border security seriously, he still COULD NOT overcome the demands of the Big-Money people.


99 posted on 03/22/2016 3:16:06 PM PDT by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: cann

“Trumpties don’t care about facts. They’ll just insult when presented with facts and scream make America great again.”

Trump-bots find the facts to be an inconvenient truth and waste of time.

The truth is Donnie was a liberal Democrat his entire life before he became what he is today - a RINO who has always financially and political supported liberal causes and candidates.


100 posted on 03/22/2016 3:16:09 PM PDT by diamond6 ("I'm going to do EXACTLY what I told you I'm going to do!" - Ted Cruz)
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