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Ted Cruz is right on the trade deal
The Examiner ^ | June 13, 2015 | J. Maropoulakis Denney

Posted on 06/13/2015 12:40:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

TPA, or similar a law, has existed for decades. The recent vote in the U.S. Senate was a renewal of the TPA, and Senator Ted Cruz, perhaps the foremost constitutional conservative in the Senate, supported it because it created a process in which the president could be held accountable. TPP was never voted on in the Senate or the House, and its language has not even been finalized.

My objection, at this point, to the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) is that it is secret, and only members of congress are permitted to read it. Ted Cruz has read it, and has issues not only with the secrecy, but on other points that he intends to address in the Senate. He especially wants to insist that any trade agreement with any of our Pacific partners under the TPP will get an up or down vote in congress within 60 days.

Trade in the Pacific has become crucial, because the un-named elephant in the room is communist China, who wants to dominate the region. Some sort of TPP must be passed; there is more than free trade at stake here, national security is tied to this....

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TOPICS: Texas; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cromnibus; cronyism; doddfrank; eib; election2016; elizabethwarren; exportimportbank; fauxahontas; glasssteagall; goldmansachs; lieawatha; massachusetts; paultardation; paultardnoisemachine; randpaulnoisemachine; randsconcerntrolls; tedcruz; texas; tisa; tpa; tpp; trade; wikileaks
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If Cruz is right about the trade deal, then post the entire legislation on line for all to read and let us make up our own minds as to whether Cruz is right or not!

Want to bet this will never happen?

No more support for RINO’s ever again!!!!!

141 posted on 06/13/2015 3:39:22 PM PDT by paratrooper82 ( 82nd ABN DIV. 1/508th BN "Fury from the Sky" Civil war is coming)
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To: boycott

“All these wonderful trade agreements have done is help us lose hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs. The furniture, textile, and so many others are all gone now.”

Which have lowered the cost and increased the standard of living for the vast majority of Americans. Free trade is the pathway to prosperity not protectionism and trade barriers


142 posted on 06/13/2015 3:42:09 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks for posting this. Cruz’s position on these things does increase my interest in his potential.


143 posted on 06/13/2015 3:42:53 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: tillacum
....”caww, there are a few FR who “eat” any politician they do not know or understand.... It’s sad, because this carries over to national elections where Republican candidates “really chew” on their Republican opponents.... That is the reason we get “moderate” (socialist lite) Republican candidates for the House, Senate and President”....

Which is why we have to change our own mindset and stop doing that.

The one thing I noticed about Cruz, in the rhetoric about where he has stood or will stand, is he's laid low until he noted ‘the confusion of the people’ was escalating and getting out of hand...just as it showed right here on FR.

I know how this man works because I've watched him long before he announced....frequently I might add. As much, those who are trying to circumvent his run and destroy him.

If Freepers continue to take the bait they're fed...and the posters who enjoy watching the fiasco...then we'll end up with Jeb Bush Just as we did Romney.

I said I would give Cruz 'lots" of room because I made a point to know where he stands and about before his run. I am in till the end because I don;t trust the media reports nor the jabs and interference of those who oppose him.

When it became an issue of TTP And TPA I checked it out until I was satisfied "why" Cruz stood where he did and the fact he hadn't taken a stand as well.

I will continue to support Cruz...

144 posted on 06/13/2015 3:48:13 PM PDT by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You forget that we are talking about Obama here.


145 posted on 06/13/2015 3:48:46 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: DugwayDuke
Which have lowered the cost and increased the standard of living for the vast majority of Americans. Free trade is the pathway to prosperity not protectionism and trade barriers

Not really, if you off shore a factory you lower your operating costs by using cheap labor. The materials and energy costs may even increase as does shipping back to the USA.

Ok most factories are highly automated even the ones in the third world, on average labor costs 5-7% per unit retail price. In the USA the labor costs would be more like 9-12%. So you save about 5%. Does the consumer get that 5%? If so what was the motivation of moving their factory over seas? Altruism or the bottom line? The consumer gets no benefit at all IMO.

146 posted on 06/13/2015 3:49:28 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s not the same thing as secret laws being passed.I’m surprised that that you would try to offer that comparison.


147 posted on 06/13/2015 3:51:44 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: fortheDeclaration

You’re steering us into a Hillary vs. Jeb race. I’ll be sure to laugh at you as I sit on the beach in a land far away drinking a tall drink and reading about the ever-declining economy and culture.


148 posted on 06/13/2015 3:52:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: SmokingJoe

“In your bizarro world, sane, rational, well informed people like 2ndDiVision should quit and let the wild eyed, irrational, crazy Ted Cruz haters take over Freerepublic? Not gonna happen. Here is an idea, why don’t YOU quit for a change? “

Posting here, 24/7/365 is NOT sane or rational.

And there are no wild eyed, irrational, crazy Ted Cruz haters that will take over Freerepublic, either.

The 2016 is not a kiddie video game.

Try discussing the substance of the issue, not each other.


149 posted on 06/13/2015 3:56:04 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I agree. If we ever do another trade agreement it should not be one negotiated in secret by Obama. I think Cruz is wrong all the way around on this issue. There is no reason a deal can’t wait until we have a president who is pro-America.


150 posted on 06/13/2015 3:58:42 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: truth_seeker
Making cogent, coherent, inherently sensible posts and a solid track of strong conservatism will make me take 2diVision’s word over yours any day, especially when measured against some of the arguably certifiable crazies with ZERO track record of conservatism that have appeared seemingly out of nowhere with one sold purpose in life: To spew out garbage on Ted Cruz threads.
151 posted on 06/13/2015 4:28:36 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Farmer Dean

What secret trade laws have been passed. TPA IS NOT secret. It’s essentially the same TPA that we had when Bush was president. Now TPP is another matter altogether. Last time I checked TPP hasn’t even come up before congress for a vote yet. Ted Cruz has already made eat his strong objections to certain parts of TPP.


152 posted on 06/13/2015 4:35:09 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Give it up. Nobody’s buying it. The SS Cruz is taking on water. But cheer up. After the presidential election Ted will still have his Senate seat. Its not like he will have to live off Heidi’s six figure income or anything.


153 posted on 06/13/2015 4:40:16 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

You’re re-posting these comments on numerous threads just shows you might have an agenda of your own...???


154 posted on 06/13/2015 4:42:58 PM PDT by caww
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To: napscoordinator

Walker endorsed this, I guess he’s off the list, too


155 posted on 06/13/2015 4:44:48 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: caww

You mean like the way you stutter post on threads. Two times like we can’t see it the first time. :-)


156 posted on 06/13/2015 4:44:54 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SmokingJoe

I was as stupid about international trade under Bush as I am now.


157 posted on 06/13/2015 4:47:39 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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To: z taxman

Yes, he opposed the Freedom Act as it was written...or do you simply not pay attention?


158 posted on 06/13/2015 4:48:25 PM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: Will88

Then tell me who is better. Cruz isn’t weak on immigration unless you oppose the Visa Program. And, I know you are not in his camp when you keep talking about TPP, when he voted FOR TPA. Big difference.

These would be significant issues if he was on the wrong side...but he is not. His history is solid too. Good luck finding someone better.


159 posted on 06/13/2015 4:50:15 PM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

God bless you and Thank you, Vet.

Please do not get discouraged.


160 posted on 06/13/2015 4:50:28 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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