Posted on 02/24/2015 7:07:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Sen. Ted Cruz is getting close to announcing his candidacy for the Republican presidential nomination. The Texan is spending almost as much time in Iowa and New Hampshire as he does on Fox News; he's hired a staff and collected a long list of fiercely conservative supporters..
There's at least one hitch: Ted Cruz was born in Calgary, in the Canadian province of Alberta. His mother was a U.S. citizen, born in Delaware; his father, a Cuban refugee working in Canada's oil fields. Thanks to his mother, Cruz was a U.S. citizen at birth.
But that doesn't clear up a legal muddle that's as old as the Constitution: Is a U.S. citizen born abroad qualified to serve as president?
I don't agree with Cruz on most issues. He wants to repeal Obamacare, abolish the Internal Revenue Service and pass a constitutional amendment allowing states to outlaw gay marriage, just to take the top of his list. But I still hope he runs — because it's high time we established the right of Canadian-born Americans to serve as president.
Canadian Americans are perhaps our most underappreciated minority. Their contributions to U.S. culture range from hockey to comedy to, well, hockey. It's an impressive list: Wayne Gretzky, William Shatner, Lorne Michaels, Jim Carrey, Pamela Anderson, Alex Trebek. And now Ted Cruz.
At this point I should confess a personal stake: My oldest daughter was born in Toronto. Like Ted Cruz, she inherited U.S. citizenship through one of her parents. But we assured her that she could grow up to be president of the United States. (Proud of her dual citizenship, she says she'd like to serve as prime minister of Canada too.)
Canada is a wonderful country.....
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
In 1788 the concept of natural born was understood to be based on the English legal systems.
Zotted? You people must scare the shite out of the tech crowd. I don’t lose one wink of sleep about being zotted. YOU petty silly moronic cowards make me weep for what used to be the land of the free and the home of the brave. If I thought for one second that you make up even a slim minority of the people on here I would never again waste a second of my life here.
What was the English legal systems understanding of natural born?
“THE children of aliens, born here in England, are, generally speaking, natural-born subjects, and entitled to all the privileges of such.”
And
“But by several more modern statutes these restrictions are still farther taken off: so that all children, born out of the king’s ligeance, whose fathers were natural-born subjects, are now natural-born subjects themselves, to all intents and purposes, without any exception”
That would have been the meaning that the Founders understood.
When did I ever say that you said that? I was just adding more information to the discussion.
Its not all about you.
That point is now moot. Buh-bye.
That is a strange looking Zot.
And scary.
Hope you are staying warm TOL.
Heh heh. I didn’t count the number of posts HMS made on this thread, but I did note that he spent 48 straight hours here making his erroneous arguments.
While he may be zotted, can we at least give him an ‘A’ for effort at his tireless attempt at being a concern troll?
lolol
This account has been branded and suspendered.
48 hours straight, hmm.
Sounds like he and someone else wee tag teaming on one handle.
Yeppers! I’m all bundled up. It’s 10°F outside, but the Sun is shining,
and we have lots of south-facing windows. Thank goodness.
Yes, his behavior makes him a concern troll, a disruptive troll, a haughty bossy troll, and now a smoking pile of troll ashes.
HMS, we hardly knew ye, thank God and all the Saints.
Not even Vattel. The people that quote him on this are doing so selectively. Vattel wasn't saying how things should be, he was reporting how things were. And when he wrote the part all the birthers love to quote he was specifically writing about some European countries. He followed the comment by pointing out that it was different in England, which all that matters to us.
“...branded and suspendered.”
[giggles]
Good post-ZOT torture of the nasty troll. You win a prize! To be determined at a later date...
Yeah, it’s pretty sad. Obsessive-compulsive disorder is a really pitiful thing.
Surprise! One thing we can say about HMS, s/he is hardheaded but not too smart.
Thanks for the ping, TOL.
Well, I also have some altered “thread pulled” messages as well.
But he didn’t say anything that required one of those.
Maybe when he retreads?
You’re welcome! My pleasure.
Cruz knows whether or not he can run. He’s a very good constitutional lawyer. Even if he doesn’t run, the thought of the possibility moves the conversation in the right direction The inside the Beltway GOP hate him.
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