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Jeb Bush on gay marriage: Couples making lifetime commitments to each other deserve respect
Hot Air ^ | January 6, 2015 | Allahpundit

Posted on 01/06/2015 1:09:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
It is a federal issue because federal courts with the aid of liberals everywhere have made it so.

Not if you believe the Constitution to be the "supreme Law of the Land" (U.S. Const, Art VI, Cl 2).

It's not a federal issue because the Constitution did not delegate power to the feds over this issue. A federal act or decision of itself does not validate that the issue belongs with the federal government.

I don't believe an endless series of amendments is the answer to deal with endless unconstitutional federal acts. Among other things, it flips the constitutional presumption stated in the Tenth Amendment that if it is not delegated to the federal government, it belongs to the states and people. It also does not deal with the heart issue of a rogue government continuing to ignore the Constitution, as confirmed by an amendment that is already in place: the Tenth Amendment.

No, I believe the states need to start nullifying unconstitutional federal acts. In this case, states should nullify these unconstitutional SCOTUS rulings about marriage and keep their anti-gay marriage laws if the majority of the people of that state so choose. Same with state anti-abortion laws.

61 posted on 01/06/2015 1:46:51 PM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I’ll vote for the Anti Crist as he is not as bad as Satan!


62 posted on 01/06/2015 1:47:45 PM PST by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!.)
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To: alloysteel
Do these same-sex couples really want to complicate their lives that much?

No. They just want to f--- up the meaning of marriage to such an extent that it becomes meaningless and complicates the lives of normal people.

63 posted on 01/06/2015 1:48:45 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

SLOUCHING TOWARD GOMORRAH


64 posted on 01/06/2015 1:48:54 PM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: PapaNew

“It’s not a federal issue because the Constitution did not delegate power to the feds over this issue.”

But it is a federal issue to the extent that federal law intersects with marriage. That happens a lot. Too much, but that is the reality of the matter.


65 posted on 01/06/2015 1:48:59 PM PST by cdcdawg
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To: PapaNew; Morgana; Responsibility2nd; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; TheOldLady; ...
But it's NONE of the federal government's business.

You are an idiot.

Our Constitution is based on English Common Law, governments have been involved in marriage for seven hundred years.

66 posted on 01/06/2015 1:50:01 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: bmwcyle

I loved that book.


67 posted on 01/06/2015 1:50:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“We live in a democracy, and regardless of our disagreements, we have to respect the rule of law,” Mr. Bush said...

What Bush does not understand is that the rule of law cannot and will not override Natural Law.

Natual Law declares sodomy and butt sex is a perversion and anathema to a healthy life.

68 posted on 01/06/2015 1:51:26 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: wagglebee; PapaNew

He must be a Libertarian.


69 posted on 01/06/2015 1:52:18 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Read post 61.

The solution in our country isn’t finding the non-existent perfect politician (they don’t exist). Find they best guy you can, but the solution is the people taking back ownership of their country, holding politicians, whoever they are, accountable, and, no matter who is in office, making it politically profitable for the wrong guy to do the right thing and politically unprofitable for ANY politician to do the wrong thing by throwing the bum out.


70 posted on 01/06/2015 1:53:51 PM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Also, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that these GOP-E figures, who hold nothing but utter contempt for the tea-party Constitutionalists and the grassroots “flyover country” just happen to proclaim two perverted dudes who play around in their own feces as deserving of honor and respect.

Jeb, you and your ilk are degenerate scumbags. And your embrace of this moral and cultural rot is one of the reasons America has slid down the sewer. You are the enemy to all that was good and decent about this country.


71 posted on 01/06/2015 1:54:13 PM PST by greene66
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To: DiogenesLamp
And here is another example of what a conservative thinks of the courts.

What do I think about the courts?
72 posted on 01/06/2015 1:55:30 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Typical crap. How about those who do not make lifetime cimittment jeb? Care to pontificate to us neandrathols about that?


73 posted on 01/06/2015 1:58:19 PM PST by BRL
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To: wagglebee
No need for a vicious attack.

governments have been involved in marriage for seven hundred years

Of course - state governments are involved in marriage issue although I don't think it's necessarily a good idea, but that's up to the people of the state.

But the Constitution does not delegate that power to the federal government. And I believe in the Rule of Law as the legal bulwark to protect freedom.

74 posted on 01/06/2015 2:01:06 PM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: PapaNew

I read it. And you simply don’t understand.

As things stand now - the Courts have absolutely too much power and control. Much more than the States do.

Is that Constitutional? No, but we must play the hand we’re dealt, and work on restoring Constitutional values to the Fedgov.

And that means correctly identifying that marriage is between a man and a woman and that healthy marriages equals healthy and growing societies.

I want a president who stands up for traditional marriages and denounces queer marriages as detrimental to our nation.


75 posted on 01/06/2015 2:01:40 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: trisham

Wrong again, but I am a lover of liberty.


76 posted on 01/06/2015 2:03:19 PM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Well, since the homosexual argument for gay "marriage" is that marriage isn't just for procreation, why not?

My mother's family was a typical early 20th century farm family, which had twelve kids. In their declining years, several of the spinsters and bachelors moved back to the farm to share expenses. Why could they not be "married" so they could retain rights as joint tenants?

By the same "arguments" advanced for homosexual "marriage" they were denied equal protection of the laws by being forced to remain single. And there was actual harm, since there were increasing inheritence burdens that they had to pay.

77 posted on 01/06/2015 2:05:08 PM PST by FredZarguna (O, Reason not the need.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Poor Jeb. He was actually a very good governor of Florida, and was a much better and more forceful public speaker than his brother. I always thought Jeb was the one who should have been president, because there’s no way he would have let the press attack him the way they attacked W.

Also, Jeb is tall, heavy set, and very engaging, so he might have gotten more support than his timid brother.

But that was then.

Since he came out in favor of Common Core, he’s off my list.


78 posted on 01/06/2015 2:05:23 PM PST by livius
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, they don’t.


79 posted on 01/06/2015 2:06:53 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is how the Neorepublicans position themselves against the Alinsky rules in the DemonRAT playbook. By making the handles as slippery as possible, there is nothing the RATs can hold onto for their demonizing smear campaign (you don’t call them DemonRATs for nothing). This slip and slide tactic also takes the spirit out of the conservative base which is the backbone of any ground game. This slip and slide tactic also indicates a deceptive candidate who will say anything, including lies, to get elected. We need a candidate who will stand on the truth and principles that are the backbone of America—not deception!


80 posted on 01/06/2015 2:11:30 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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