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To: MUDDOG
Actually….not to start a fight….but a state program as a "laboratory of Democracy" would not offend the notion of our Founders. Now, of course, getting government out is the preference - and Mitt campaigned very poorly on this issue (predictably) - but there is a massive difference between a teeny tiny state doing something and the Feds doing it.

I'm not MItt guy, and I don't think Romney Care is a good idea or ever was….but our Founders professed a profound difference in local versus centralized Federal govermmnet….

10 posted on 11/03/2013 2:56:13 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I don't think Romney Care is a good idea or ever was

Me neither. But I voted for him anyway.

14 posted on 11/03/2013 3:02:08 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“I’m not MItt guy, and I don’t think Romney Care is a good idea or ever was….but our Founders professed a profound difference in local versus centralized Federal govermmnet….”

You are right about that. If a state wanted to implement a system like this then fine, do so. I may not like it but I could move. When the law becomes national that move becomes more problematic.

The issue with Obamacare is that it is a bad law - even if it worked it would still be a bad law. This is a difficult argument to make to leftist at times but I feel I must try at least occasionally to do so. People should not be against the law because it is implemented poorly; they should be against it because it is intrusive, violates the right of association, is a power not specifically vested in the Federal government and thus a state issue, it seems to me it potentially violates the interstate commerce clause, is a tax bill that did not originate in the house and probably several other issues that I am leaving out. The fact that it does not work is almost beside the point though is helpful in getting rid of the law.


20 posted on 11/03/2013 3:06:37 PM PST by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You make an excellent point, and I don’t fault Romney for defending his state program (emphasis: STATE program). For the despicable Obama to take a state program and federalize it, so that individuals cannot escape it with their feet, and then to stand in Faneuil Hall and thank Romney for essentially being a handmaiden to ObamaCare is, I think, why Romney had to respond.


36 posted on 11/03/2013 3:53:11 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
“I'm not MItt guy, and I don't think Romney Care is a good idea or ever was….but our Founders professed a profound difference in local versus centralized Federal govermmnet….”

You're right but I don't believe they professed a desire for socialism. The state represents force and unless the people were allowed to choose whether they wanted to join the state run plan it's unacceptable. Also, the state shouldn't in any way fund such a program, if they do it's still a redistribution of wealth and socialism.

47 posted on 11/03/2013 6:28:51 PM PST by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: C. Edmund Wright

ROMNEYCARE EQUALS OBAMACARE. I WROTE IN RICK SANTORUM. NO WAY WAS I VOTING FOR SOCIALIZED MEDICINE.


50 posted on 11/03/2013 9:28:53 PM PST by James Flintstone
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