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McCain: The people behind the “defund ObamaCare” strategy must be held “accountable”
Hot Air ^ | October 11, 2013 | Allahpundit

Posted on 10/13/2013 11:01:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The key bit comes at the very end, in response to a question about who’s responsible for the temporary suspension of death benefits to families of fallen troops. McCain’s answer: Everyone in Congress — but, implicitly, especially the “defund” caucus. You can tell how eager Maverick was to make that point by how quickly he turns a segment about the administration giving short shrift to the military — normally an easy lay-up for a Republican against a Democratic president — into a lament about Cruz et al. I’m not sure a guy who’s positioned himself as the lead Republican opponent of the “wacko birds” should be ruminating on holding people accountable, but if he’s leaning towards not running again in 2016, he’s got nothing to lose. No doubt he’s enjoying sticking it to tea partiers immensely.

If nothing else, this clip illustrates the slightly (but only slightly) exaggerated truth that “there are now two Republican parties.” Case in point:

Tea Party Republicans approve of the job congressional Republicans are doing by a 72%-25% margin. However, a plurality of NON-Tea Party Republicans disapprove by a 49%-42% In addition, 69% of Tea Party Republicans believe the GOP is demonstrating strong leadership and standing up for what they believe in, versus 29% of them who say they’re putting their political agenda ahead of what’s good for the country. But those numbers are reversed among NON-Tea Party Republicans — 53% say they’re putting politics first, while 41% think Republicans are standing up for what they believe in. And then there’s this: Among Tea Party Republicans, Ted Cruz has a 52%-4% fav/unfav rating. But among non-Tea Party it’s 13%-23%.

Either that rift is healed in the next two years or the primary campaign in 2015 is going to be … really something. One question for the “defund” supporters, though: If this really was about trying to build consensus in Congress to stop O-Care, why is Mark Begich claiming that none of the defunders ever met with him to pitch him on joining them in voting no? He’s a red-state Democrat who’s up for reelection next year; it’s unlikely that he’d break ranks with his caucus, but if any Dem is going to, it’s one who’s in Begich’s position. Instead, he claims, “The only time Ted Cruz said something to me was when I was literally coming to the floor, you know the two tables down by the desk there where you cast your vote. He said, ‘You should vote for this.’ That was it.” Could be that Begich is lying, of course, but if he’s going to lie, there are more self-serving lies he could tell than that one. E.g., “I have grave concerns about ObamaCare, and Senators Cruz and Lee begged to meet with me about them. But once they threatened to shut down the government, I told them ‘Hell, no!’” A lie along those lines would please Alaska GOPers by signaling his alleged “concerns” about O-Care and Alaska Democrats by punching Cruz and Lee. And showing that he was opposed to the shutdown would please both. Instead, he’s making the lesser claim that no one on the defund side ever tried to meet with him. That makes me think it’s true, and if it’s true, why is it true? What did defunders have to lose by feeling him out to see what he’d need to conceivably vote with Republicans against Reid’s amendment stripping the “defund” provisions out of the House bill? Remember, Reid could have lost as many as three Democrats on that and still passed it by simple majority, so he might have let Begich cross the aisle in order to protect himself with reddish Alaska voters. Why not try?

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TOPICS: Arizona; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: arizona; assclown; collaborator; cruz; mccain; obamacare; randsconcerntrolls; sellout; shutdown; stfujuan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain is regularly trashed on his facebook page. Hundreds and hundreds of posts to him from those that are unhappy to say the least. Someone deletes all the bad messages, the page looks empty for a while then fills up again with comments about his actions. You would think he would get the message. He is delusional.


61 posted on 10/13/2013 12:14:47 PM PDT by Tammy8
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Rand Paul’s immigration speech
03.19.13 | Hon Sen Rand Paul (KY)
Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2998395/posts

...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.

Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.

Let’s start that conversation by acknowledging we aren’t going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...

This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.

Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.

[but he’s not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]


62 posted on 10/13/2013 12:17:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt’s Generals:
‘How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?’
Foreign Policy | 15 Aug 2013 | John Hudson
Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3055253/posts

Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt’s military — even as Cairo’s security forces massacre anti-government activists.

[by “anti-government activists” is meant church-burning jihadists]


63 posted on 10/13/2013 12:18:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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64 posted on 10/13/2013 12:18:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
McCain is a TRAITOR to America.

The Vietcong were successful in their programming of McCain as a ticking time bomb insurgent of the Republican Party!

65 posted on 10/13/2013 12:21:24 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sure Juan meant to say “must be given the credit”. Didn’t you, Juan?


66 posted on 10/13/2013 12:26:19 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s still hope for McCain -——!!!!

http://www.azdhs.gov/azsh/patient-family/admissions-process.htm


67 posted on 10/13/2013 12:33:35 PM PDT by faithhopecharity
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At this point he’s just trolling the party, looking for “causes” for his imminent party switch. POS.


68 posted on 10/13/2013 12:34:54 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: SueRae

The only thing he ever did right was bring Palin on to the ticket.——YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!
I always say I voted for her not for him and I am sure 98% of his votes feel the same way.


69 posted on 10/13/2013 12:35:00 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Politicians who refuse to enforce our immigration laws must be held accountable.


70 posted on 10/13/2013 12:40:52 PM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain being blackmailed? Or has he completely lost his mind?


71 posted on 10/13/2013 12:45:55 PM PDT by abclily
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain being blackmailed? Or has he completely lost his mind?


72 posted on 10/13/2013 12:48:35 PM PDT by abclily
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To: Florida native

somebody needs to B@#ch slap that old fart!


73 posted on 10/13/2013 12:51:35 PM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: martin_fierro
I can’t believe I voted for this guy. Well, actually it was more for Sarah.

If Sarah hadn't joined the ticket, I probably would have stayed home in 2008. I voted for her, not John McCain.

74 posted on 10/13/2013 1:07:20 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SueRae
we let ‘the media’ and GOPe pick the guy that LOST to McCain to run next.

Bears repeating, with emphasis!

75 posted on 10/13/2013 1:10:34 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McShamey strikes again....just switch parties already.

None dare call it treason


76 posted on 10/13/2013 1:16:39 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Florida native
McCain is a traitor to Americans and it’s time for Sarah Palin to denounce him.

I'm sure that Sarah has spent many a night praying for guidance over her association with this malignant tumor on the American right.

If not complete denunciation of the man, she would do well to at least begin denouncing his quisling traitor positions and statements. The man is working for the enemy, and needs to be called out for doing so by every Tea Party luminary.

77 posted on 10/13/2013 1:17:06 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ilgipper
The day McCain is gone from the senate will be almost as joyous as the day Ted Kennedy was no longer there

Could you ever imagine a day would come when we'd feel such revulsion for a Republican Senator?

McCain is a poster boy for what's wrong with America.

78 posted on 10/13/2013 1:19:58 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McQueeg didnt hold his NVA torturers or the Syrian “rebels” (aka al Qaeda) organ-eaters or even Qadaffi “accountable”

Hey John, can’t we all just get along? Worked for you and the commies and Qadaffi and al Qaeda terrorists


79 posted on 10/13/2013 1:57:20 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Told folks on this website in 2008 they were fools for supporting Juan McLame.


80 posted on 10/13/2013 2:03:19 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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