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Poll: Republicans embracing libertarian priorities
Politico ^ | 9/11/13 | JAMES HOHMANN

Posted on 09/11/2013 1:56:48 PM PDT by wmfights

Two-thirds of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents said they want their member of Congress to “keep their promises and stick to principles” as opposed to “compromise in a bipartisan way to get things done.”

“From Obamacare on down, sticking to principle is where the Republican base is today,” said David Kirby, vice president of opinion research at FreedomWorks. “It’s an example of how off the Republican establishment is from their base.”

Social issues have become less salient to GOP voters: 41 percent said gay marriage is not one of their top 10 issues. Asked about abortion, about one-third said it is one of the top three issues they care about; another third said it is not in the top three but somewhere in the top 10 and the final third said it is not one of their top 10 concerns.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/poll-republicans-libertarian-96576.html#ixzz2ecUQmr3o

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To: wmfights
Conservative principals are based in a much more complex rigor of thought.

Rigorous enough to note that in matters of marraige and abortion, what Congress does should be irrelevant because it's not within their enumerated powers to legislate it?

21 posted on 09/11/2013 2:23:49 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: dsc

Absolutely.


22 posted on 09/11/2013 2:23:51 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Trust but verify. If you can't verify, trust no one but God.)
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To: Farnsworth
The GOP needs Libertarians and Tea Party people to take over and kick out the entrenched elites...

I think you are right, but there is a need for these groups to learn why social conservatives have the views they hold. If the big rush is to draw these people into the party and social conservatives are expected to "sit in the corner and be quiet" the party will lose as many supporters as it gains.

23 posted on 09/11/2013 2:24:29 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: wmfights

When you try to run as Democrat-Lite, people just wind up voting for the real thing.


24 posted on 09/11/2013 2:25:07 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: wmfights

“compared with 40 percent who think government should promote “traditional values.”

The question is should that be the job of government? I say that’s the job of civil society. Once government takes on promoting values, don’t be surprised if they start promoting values you don’t like.


25 posted on 09/11/2013 2:25:34 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: wmfights

“I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism” -Ronald Reagan


26 posted on 09/11/2013 2:27:11 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Why post this half truth? Why not post the rest of the quote?


27 posted on 09/11/2013 2:28:25 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: wmfights

Civilized Society could withstand a few percentage of perverts in the closet quite easily.

Civilized Society can not withstand public and government approved celebrations of perversion while attacking those who disapprove. That society won’t survive long.


28 posted on 09/11/2013 2:29:28 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Responsibility2nd

Reagan’s view of libertarian philosophy:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg0Axyvlkm0&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DDg0Axyvlkm0


29 posted on 09/11/2013 2:30:28 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Hugin
The question is should that be the job of government? I say that’s the job of civil society. Once government takes on promoting values, don’t be surprised if they start promoting values you don’t like.

The govt. is a necessary evil needed to protect a civil society. The question is what is the basis for the moral code it exists to protect. Is our moral code based on our heart or something else.

30 posted on 09/11/2013 2:30:32 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: Responsibility2nd

REASON: Governor Reagan, you have been quoted in the press as saying that you’re doing a lot of speaking now on behalf of the philosophy of conservatism and libertarianism. Is there a difference between the two?

REAGAN: If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.

Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path.


31 posted on 09/11/2013 2:31:40 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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To: Olog-hai
The LORD still judges. A GOP that continues to abandon such conservative principles will be delivered into the hands of its enemies.

Sorry, most Christian churches have already delivered us into the hands of the athiest marxists, all in the name of "social justice."

32 posted on 09/11/2013 2:32:28 PM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: ClaytonP

most?


33 posted on 09/11/2013 2:33:17 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: BarnacleCenturion; Responsibility2nd

Entire Interview

http://reason.com/archives/1975/07/01/inside-ronald-reagan


34 posted on 09/11/2013 2:33:42 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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To: ClaytonP

This has been quantified?

And is this alleged takeover by libertarians in particular, or liberals . . . ?


35 posted on 09/11/2013 2:34:39 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Hugin

Once government takes on promoting values, don’t be surprised if they start promoting values you don’t like.”

Exactly. Most people in government are godless communists.

I don’t want them promoting their values at all.


36 posted on 09/11/2013 2:34:43 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Farnsworth

The big government RINO’s aren’t sincere about balancing the budget, spending less money, lowering taxes or about any social issue you can think of.

They say what people want to hear, do symbolic things like pretend to defund Obamacare as they plan to do soon and use that as basis to keep on re-electing them.

OVER 90 PERCENT OF ELECTED REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS ARE PHONIES AND NEED REPLACEMENT.


37 posted on 09/11/2013 2:34:49 PM PDT by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW, PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN,CHANGE I BELIEVE IN)
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To: Perdogg

Thank you.

And if Reagan had issues with liberaltarians in 1975 - imagine his shock and horror at these idiots today.

Today - libertarians and conservatives are at polar opposites for what we want America to be.


38 posted on 09/11/2013 2:34:50 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: wmfights

I have no problem with people letting their religious values inform their opinion on public policy. I have a big problem with government telling people what those values should be.


39 posted on 09/11/2013 2:34:54 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: BarnacleCenturion
“I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism” -Ronald Reagan

One of the few times I will disagree with him.

An "anything goes" society is not a conservative principal. I don't believe conservatives support homosexual marriage, abortion (in fairness libertarians are split on this), or drug legalization.

40 posted on 09/11/2013 2:34:56 PM PDT by wmfights
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