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1 posted on 02/24/2013 9:28:58 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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As I have posted on many threads, I boil it down to two key elements, the media, and education from K thru Grad School.
The Communist do know how to turn a society into a Marxist state.
The abandonment of Communism in Russia and central Europe
has been forgotten now.
The leftist think that it is safe to bring it back, but now
in the USA with premier Obama, to make the USSA.


2 posted on 02/24/2013 9:49:55 PM PST by AlexW
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I have a liberal acquaintance from many years ago. In 1994, I showed her a taped news video of Al Gore making a complete idiot of himself before a group of Virginia high school kids. After the first 5 seconds of a 60 sec video, She turned her head away and refused to look and I also believe refused to hear.

The way liberals “reason” is that liberals are right, conservatives are wrong and all fact to the contrary are false inputs to be ignored and all fact confirming this are not to be questioned.


4 posted on 02/24/2013 10:01:53 PM PST by staytrue
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America was lost when Ted Kennedy arranged for all six billion people on earth to move here.


5 posted on 02/24/2013 10:01:53 PM PST by The Toll
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The problem is that this has become a very stupid country.


8 posted on 02/24/2013 10:14:58 PM PST by dfwgator
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To point #1
The establishment handed us moderates such as Bob Dole and Mitt Romney and we lost.

They also handed us an enigma in George Bush. How we won the 1st time was astounding.

Better still, was the weirdness of John F’ing Kerry. If it weren’t for his public arrogance and his Loon wife He would have been president. But, that would have required a bit of tempered discipline.

Bottom line is ideas sell and doing anything one can to come off as agreeable is parsimonious to those you are trying to reach.

They make the mistake of trying to reach those who are self serving and looking to the gubmint for a hand out. Over and Over again.

Then there are True Believers. Everyone should be treated “fairly”. Yeah, right. KMA.

Only in their world can the down trodden being seen as being fairly, while those who are doing well enough to pay the taxes enabling handouts and preferential treatment are gored, pilloried and looted.

That’s right, theives steal from their pockets of anything they deem valuable and the lint on account of it being just right.

To the other two points in the premise: “Correct”.

The Jack Wagons are jacking with us and hijacking the nation for their diseased self serving avarice and envy.

The tax paying class are now the most under represented people in the land.


9 posted on 02/24/2013 10:21:15 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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#1 Renewing the virtue of this country in both the noting public and the folks running for and who are already in office...

#2 Truely believing the conservative position and message by candidates and incumbents...

#3 Winning the cultural battles instead of trying to win the political ones, turning election day into a moot point before the polls open...

The democrats have succeeded, and will continue to succceed on their positions on these 3 points until the republican party gets its leaderships head out of their arses and focuses on them, instead of dismissing the conservative movement and its base...

To which I believe the republican party will not do, because the leadership is now firmly entrenched into the moderate swing of the political pendulum...And doing what it can to disniss and relegate the conservative base into oblivion...


10 posted on 02/24/2013 10:29:45 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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I am frankly bored by all this navel gazing on the part of conservatives/the GOP. Romney gathered 47ish percent of the vote. We lost a close election to an incumbent.

That said, while I know it has changed some, I wonder if the electorate has changed as much as people say? I wonder if there are a few percentage points of Elizabeth Warrens out there who are white leftists claiming to be in some group or another because it pays.

I wonder what percentage of the electorate would be viewed as white, if you just looked at them. I wonder how many white hispanics who would have called themselves white in say 1984, now identify themselves as hispanics.


12 posted on 02/24/2013 10:35:42 PM PST by JLS
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I find the article disturbing for a number of reasons. I’m not saying you’re wrong; I just think you offer little in the way of help or hope. And there is hope. Though many people have bought the liberal line, many more people still know how to think.

I see the problem conservatives have as one of courage. We fear what the media says about us and what educators say about conservatism, so we hide our opinions or try to water them down and make them more palatable.

I believe it’s time for conservatives to show some courage and fight the lies boldly. Liberals have the media and academics on their side but we have the truth. We need to speak the truth no matter how angry we make liberals. And when the media and academics try to tear us down, we need to respond with the same intensity with which we are attacked. When we are called racist, we must not be afraid to declare how offensive the charge is. When we are portrayed as the bad guys, we must demand proof that the liberal making the charge is right or demand an apology. And we must be relentless in our proclamation of the truth as well as quick to respond to lies.

It’s time to stop rolling over and playing dead. Call out the limo libs and don’t let up. Flood the press with demands for the truth. Stand up to ignorant college professors and don’t back down.

Now is the time for conservatives to be bold and courageous instead of wimpy.


13 posted on 02/24/2013 10:39:40 PM PST by truthczar2000 (All English translations are just that.)
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BTTT


15 posted on 02/24/2013 10:51:30 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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Time to get this government OUT
OUT OF OUR FACE
OUT OF OUR RELIGION
AND
OUT OF OUR POCKETBOOKS


16 posted on 02/24/2013 11:57:43 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname .Ex Chi" mechanic"ret)
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Excellent article. The author is correct, IMO.


17 posted on 02/25/2013 12:23:36 AM PST by Girlene
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the slackers, stoners, prevs, pedos, and derelicts in society are all voting dem

the teachers union insured they have no future. they must get govt assistance. if you’re voting against govt assistance, you lose their vote.

done


23 posted on 02/25/2013 1:53:35 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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We’ve passed the Mendoza line. This situation cannot be rectified until it first fails utterly and the pieces need to be picked up and reworked. The matter will continue to worsen until the money’s no good, the freight doesn’t move and hungry people are rioting. America is over and don’t give me that sunny day crap about winning over people to our position; you’re trying to talk Girl Scout values to crack whores. The American electorate is addicted to government cheese and won’t be talked out if it. Any electorate that thinks it’s axiomatic that health care is a right will never vote for someone who disagrees with them. When Rome fell the Romans had to read about it later. The US has already fallen and they’ll date the fall to 2008 or thereabouts, IMHO.

The left knows the rioting is coming; that’s why they want your guns. A group that murders hundreds of thousands of unborn every year doesn’t give a rats ass about 20 kids in Connecticut.


27 posted on 02/25/2013 3:00:22 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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email received this a.m. ???dated 2099??

This general explains it all.

FRIENDS….THIS CAME FROM THE TOP……..PLEASE WATCH……
I’m not big on conspiracy theories but much of what this General says has happened.
Lt Gen Boykin was the commander of “Delta Force” and later commander of the US Army Special Operations Command. He is a true American hero.
A Bone Chilling video— PASS IT ON BEFORE IT IS BLOCKED
http://www.morningstartv.com/oak-initiative/marxism-
america


28 posted on 02/25/2013 3:00:49 AM PST by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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("No, President Obama has NOT increased the deficit: that's a lie! For your information, President Obama has spent less than any President in history!");

I have a liberal/democRAT/marxist/socialist (sorry to be redundant) acquaintance say exactly that. So I said, let's go to the computer, and treasury.gov. She refused to even look at the data.

Besides the media, and the dnc, our schools are complicit in the spreading of this type propaganda.

5.56mm

30 posted on 02/25/2013 4:44:13 AM PST by M Kehoe
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The underlying assumption that leadership of the Republican Party is immune to “group-think” is wrong. They are not. They are willing participants, and as much as any other group have their hands over their ears to avoid hearing anything contrary to their world view.


37 posted on 02/25/2013 7:35:16 AM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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Boehner, McConnell, & Priebus.

Not a law firm, not a '70s band with synthesizers.

Just three goobers.

63 posted on 02/25/2013 3:11:33 PM PST by OKSooner (Godspeed, 3-D Danny.)
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