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1 posted on 10/21/2012 6:26:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Al Franken. Enough said!


2 posted on 10/21/2012 6:28:30 PM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; TreeTreeTweeTs

3 posted on 10/21/2012 6:30:04 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Minnesota turning red?

Has Obama lost the Somali vote?!


5 posted on 10/21/2012 6:40:02 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Would be a nice surprise, but I am not counting on it.


6 posted on 10/21/2012 6:41:02 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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If MN went red this election, it would definitely be a happy day in my house. I spoke with my “lib” father this evening. He said that he is considering voting for Romney because he is concerned about the economy and national debt and doesn’t think Obama is willing to fix the problem. If HE is considering voting for Romney, there must be many other limbs considering it too.


7 posted on 10/21/2012 6:41:03 PM PDT by MNGal
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'll believe it when I see it. That's my comment.
8 posted on 10/21/2012 6:42:44 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: SeekAndFind; LS; Perdogg; napscoordinator; God luvs America; nutmeg; SoFloFreeper; Ravi; ...

Poll ping


12 posted on 10/21/2012 6:50:07 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 elections.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

WI and MI maybe. No way PA or MN go red.


13 posted on 10/21/2012 6:54:58 PM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For similar reasons, I came this close to moving MN to toss-up this evening. I have it as 49-46 and “leans Obama.” Possibly, it’ll be among the surprise pick-ups on election night 50 to 49 to 1.


15 posted on 10/21/2012 7:00:16 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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My adventure into St. Paul for the State Fair, convinced me they’re all still nuts in the inner-city. Crazy, howling at the moon, Amy Klobuchar nuts.

I kissed the ground when I got home in the west metro. I would love for Minnesota to go in the R column, but I don’t see it. Too many D’s in Mpls./St. Paul and Duluth.

Berkeley of the midwest. I’m glad I have other heritage to offset the Scandinavian madness, plus I’m South Dakotan by birth and upbringing. Keeps me sane.


16 posted on 10/21/2012 7:02:12 PM PDT by mplsconservative ($7.75 for a block of Velveeta cheese? Let's have an anti-Obama grilled cheese revolt!)
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What some knee-jerk Freepers don’t realize is that Minnesota is very quirky when it comes to politics.

Yes, we’ve elected moonbats like Ellison, Klobuchar and James “Governor Turnbuckle” Janos. We even let Stuart Smalley steal an election.

But we’ve also elected people like Bachmann, Pawlenty and Rod Grams and flipped both houses of the Legislature in 2010. We also went 25 years without electing a Democrat governor.

So the state is, in reality, purple. Going red would be wonderful in November because we have a legislature to hold, and Voter ID and the marriage amendment to get passed.


20 posted on 10/21/2012 7:16:14 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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I grew up in Duluth, left at 16 when I joined the carnival. I have only been back a few times since. It was already a liberal bastion back in the early 1970's when I left. I always refereed to it as SF of the North due to its liberal commie policies.

It's in the 8th Congressional District that had been in Democrat hands since 1947. I never thought I would see the day that Congressman Jim Oberstar would lose his seat to a Republican. I was convinced he would die in office, but then 2010 happened and Chip Cravaack defeated him.

That Congressional seat was considered the most secure Democrat seat in the nation. I wrote about it being a sign of the Democrats demise back in 2010.

Now I am of the opinion that Minnesota could very well go Republican this time around for Romney. If it does, then I would also bet that California is a lot closer then we know. Not that Romney will win Ca, but many Americans now know who Obama and the democrats are, and they don't like what they see.

22 posted on 10/21/2012 7:27:07 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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“Election Night Surprise: Why Minnesota Will Turn Red on November 6...”

Heh.

I’ll believe it when I see it.


23 posted on 10/21/2012 7:29:55 PM PDT by Road Glide
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Not figured into the analysis is the marriage referendums effect on turn out. I think conservatives who heretofore didn’t vote in MN because it just always goes dem will turn out this time to vote on that. It could be the tipping point.


25 posted on 10/21/2012 7:33:09 PM PDT by freemama
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I could see it. It’s a very white state with a higher than average rate of religious observance. There’s a long history of liberalism, particularly in the Twin Cities area. Lots of old unions are falling by the wayside, but you still have cities like Duluth that are chock full of blue collar unions guys.

I honestly see MN and WI increasingly breaking the GOP way. It’s long past due.


28 posted on 10/21/2012 7:38:16 PM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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With President Obama in the SurveyUSA Party ID section this breaks down as (27 x .06) + (37 x .93) + (30 x .42) + (6 x .17) + (6 x .33) = 51.7 or 52

Scenario 1: Survey USA Party ID 27 37 30 6 [6] Vote Total
Republicans % Democrats % Independents % Other % Undecided %
Obama 6 93 42 17 33 51.7
Romney 89 4 45 17 66 44.0
Scenario 2: 2008 Party ID 33 37 25 6 [6]
Republicans % Democrats % Independents % Other % Undecided %
Obama 6 93 42 17 33 49.9
Romney 89 4 45 17 66 47.1
Scenario 3: 2012 Party ID est. 32 32 30 6 [6]
Republicans % Democrats % Independents % Other % Undecided %
Obama 6 93 42 17 33 47.3
Romney 89 4 45 17 66 48.2

Our three scenarios produce the following results:


31 posted on 10/21/2012 7:43:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I live here in the Twin Cities and I’ve been seeing Obama ads for a couple months now. Not a whole bunch of them, but they do advertise here somewhat regularly. Haven’t seen any Romney ads. I have assumed that they were targeted toward Western Wisconsin, which is only about 20 minutes from St Paul. I just can’t imagine this state turning red, but I’m sure it could happen with a big enough wave.


32 posted on 10/21/2012 7:50:51 PM PDT by lquist1
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“In 2008, the under-performance versus the national shrunk to 1%, meaning had John McCain received 51% of the national vote, he could have expected to get 50% of the vote in Minnesota.”

I didn’t understand where this number came from, given that Obama won Minnesota by 3% more than the national vote. It seems like this would translate to McCain would have needed to have obtained 3% more of the vote to have a shot at Minnesota.

I remember reading some years ago from Jay Cost, when he was doing the horse race blog, that Minnesota, and other Upper Midwest states, were trending Republican. If this is the case, and given a +3 Dem bias to overcome, it seems from logic that if Romney wins by 2% or so, he ought to have a shot.


40 posted on 10/22/2012 1:32:41 PM PDT by TomEwall
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