Posted on 01/19/2012 9:18:41 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
I mean, really. How dare you peasants tell the government what to do? How dare you tell them to stay out of your lives? Santorum 2012!
(VIDEO AT LINK)
"One of the criticisms I make is to what I refer to as more of a Libertarianish right.
They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulations low, that we shouldn’t get involved in the bedroom, we shouldn’t get involved in cultural issues.
That is not how traditional conservatives view the world. There is no such society that I’m aware of, where we’ve had radical individualism and that it succeeds as a culture.”
- Rick Santorum
First off, the phrase “radical individualism” is something I expect to hear from a Saudi imam. Hell, I wouldn’t be too surprised to hear it from leftists in this country. When I hear it from a Republican candidate for president, I sit blinking for a couple of minutes and then curl up in a ball under my desk, crying softly.
Secondly, I have to wonder: is Santorum insane, or even more out of touch with his base than any of the other candidates? This guy has the balls to whine about people wanting the government to leave them alone? Um, Ricky, I’m pretty sure the top issue for most conservatives is government overreach. There’s this thing called ObamaCare. Heard of it?
However, the true Emmy award winner of this piece is when he disputes the notion that “government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulations low”. You’re absolutely right, bud. I hope you get up on a podium tonight and deliver, in that notoriously whiny timbre of yours, admonishment to all those non-traditional conservatives who won’t shut up about lower taxes and less regulation. See how that flies in South Carolina. Rick Santorum is a statist theocrat. I’ve said it before, and been challenged on it. I consider this quote to be a follow up to this endlessly disturbing piece from nine years ago. Rick Santorum’s agenda involves using government power to enforce his morality on the American people, based not on political or constitutional ideals, but on his religious views. He is as far removed from the Tea Party, and the concept of small-government conservatism, as Barack Obama.
But lucky us! We can also choose from a socialist who provided the blueprint for ObamaCare, a serial cheater and liar with an ego the size of Neptune, or an isolationist crank who wouldn’t have stopped the Holocaust if it were occurring in present day. Johnnie Walker is my co-pilot.
In the last paragraph he forgot Governor Buddy Roemer.
What he did say ends him as a politician.
This is a Santorum hit piece by a no name blogger. The clip is of two Libertarians who have no idea what they are talking about just like Ron Paul. They take a few snip-its from long interviews and then babble on about him being anti freedom.
Just listen to them pimp for Paul and Gary Johnson in this interview. Libertarians are not Conservatives and they never will be. That is Santorums point and if you listen to his examples, they are sound. If the Ron Paulites “if it feels good, do it” crap is so great, why isn’t the Libertarian Party the predominant of three parties and Ron Paul running away with the nomination?
Rick, I want the ****ing government to leave me the **** alone, and that includes you!
Rick Santorum did not appeal to us to allow the government to fix a nonexistant problem from a couch with Nancy Pelosi.
I’ll take the hopefully ex womanizer with the Neptune sized ego, if that is what it comes down to.
Santorum just went way down in my eyes if this is his view. He wants government to be big? Just because that’s a common trap that governments around the world (but not the US during the first hundred or so years of its life) fell into? If he’d even say it should be smaller than it is now, that would be better than nothing. But boy, how tone deaf to say the least. And the Tea Party would bolt on this about as much as it would bolt on Mitt.
“That is not how traditional conservatives view the world. There is no such society that I’m aware of, where we’ve had radical individualism and that it succeeds as a culture.”
Let me ask you something, 2D Vet.
Do you believe that a culture that elevates personal autonomy as the primary good, is one that has any respect for religious faith?
At least Newt retracted when he learned more, and he recently committed himself to belonging to a church that, at least on paper, takes womanizing as a serious sin.
Picking a president, at best, will be to pick the sinner who will still do the most good. I’m going with Newt.
Point was that conservative believe in limited government. I know you understood this, but are deliberately twisting his words to tear him down for the propellent of your candidate. How about having a point of view/argument actually based in substance and not talking points. We can’t ridicule liberals if we use their tactics now can we?
"One of the criticisms I make is to what I refer to as more of a Libertarianish right."
"They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulations low, that we shouldn’t get involved in the bedroom, we shouldn’t get involved in cultural issues."
"That is not how traditional conservatives view the world. There is no such society that I’m aware of, where we’ve had radical individualism and that it succeeds as a culture.”
- Rick Santorum
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Hasn't he ever heard of The United States of America?
This fruitcake sounds like Obama/Reid/Pelosi!
Does Santorum really understand what Tea Partiers are getting at? It’s not an ultra-Paulish vision (and by the way somehow Christianity got along just fine side by side with alcohol and pot in the first 150 years of this country’s life). I don’t think he groks it, any more than he groks that the 2nd amendment is more than hunters!!
Let me ask you something: Do you want the president’s personal religion to determine what you and I can do? Right now we have an anti-American Mohammadan and may soon have a Mormon or hard-shell Catholic (Rick) in the White House. Are you ready to give 10% of your gross household income to Salt Lake City?
And then promise to curtail government to those limits.
Thomas Jefferson didn't buy a bunch of ships that were authorized by Congress.
I think he made the right executive call.
/johnny
Rick Santorum’s Roman Catholicism isn’t the problem here.
I'll answer for 2D: A culture can be, or not, without the help or hindrance of government. Government, in this nation, has a very specific and limited role at the Federal level.
This is where Santorum gets it wrong. He would take the very same statist approach at the federal level as the godless commies. He would insist all moral issues be decided at the federal level.
This is ABSOLUTELY contrary to the Constitution and the original intent of the founders.
Our Federal government is prohibited from establishing a religion or preventing the free exercise thereof.
The question of religious faith should not be in it's lexicon.
In which case, the writer is sadly ignorant of Robert Bork.
Paul gets it partly right, but has huge blind spots, including that the US has well passed the point where it can ignore the rest of global goings-on. That genie won’t go back into the bottle. For that reason he’s not suitable.
Rick looks kind of like Maxwell Smart here.
“Let me ask you something: Do you want the president’s personal religion to determine what you and I can do?”
I asked you a question. Answer the question.
Do you believe that a culture which elevates personal autonomy above all other good is a culture which has any respect for religion?
Santorum is spot on here. American culture was never about personal autonomy or ‘self rule’. It was about personal responsibility - the obligation of the individual to look after - not just himself, but his family.
That is why we are in trouble today. People have forgotten their obligation to care for their own families, and to serve their community not just themselves.
So, yes, Santorum is right. Americans have always valued individualism, insofar as indivdualism promotes personal responsibility. This is what Ron Paul doesn’t get. You cannot have a society which values personal autonomy, because it falls apart.
There has to be a balance between the two.
Now, answer my question, please.
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