“Looks to me like Osteen doesn’t know the difference between Jesus the Word who created this world and is God or Jesus the created brother of angels or Jesus the Mexican guy down the street.”
You know, I have been condemned to hell so many times on this site, I lost count. But your statement takes the cake. My Church believes that Jesus Christ is the only-begotten Son of God; that Jesus Christ is the Great Jehovah of the Old Testament and the Savior and Redeemer of the New Testament; the Holy Ghost ever lives to draw us closer to the Father and the Son. Jesus Christ is the Head of the Church.
When I watch Pastor Osteen’s program I have a witness of the Holy Ghost in my heart. It’s OK if you don’t believe me but please do not take it upon yourself to condemn people to hell; that is way above your pay grade.
Pastor Joel Osteen is a wonderful young man, a strong Christian, with a strong Testimony of the Gospel; he has a great family and he is a very good example. It is sad to see so many FReepers attack his character and his good name, not to mention his testimony of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Very sad indeed.
I listened to osteen for awhile but something started to feel not so right. Then I watched him on a couple of talk shows. He WOULD NOT definitively take a stand on any Christian principles. He danced around and chucked and jived. Many people died as martyrs for taking a stand. The very least he could have done was take a stand for the Bible on the joy Behr show. He absolutey lost me after that.
If you feel you're so often condemned to Hell at FR, perhaps you should look at your spirit directives, because no one I have read here has condemned you because Christians KNOW Whom is the real Judge thus we only use discernment to reject your lies, Sandy. If you feel condemned perhaps you should listen to the still small voice trying to get through to your deceitful soul. Do you agree with the following teachings from your past leaders at LDS inc?
"We may talk of men being redeemed by the efficacy of his [Christ's] blood; but the truth is that that blood has no efficacy to wash away our sins. That must depend upon our own action." [ LDS Apostle Amasa M. Lyman, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 7, p. 299, 1859]"Again, they will try to tell how the divinity of Jesus is joined to his humanity, and exhaust all their mental faculties, and wind up with this profound language, as describing the soul of man, "it is an immaterial substance!" What a learned idea! Jesus, our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in Heaven. Now, let all who may hear these doctrines, pause before they make light of them, or treat them with indifference, for they will prove their salvation or damnation. I have given you a few leading items upon this subject, but a great deal more remains to be told. Now, remember from this time forth, and for ever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Holy Ghost." [ LDS Prophet Bingham Young, JoD 1:50-51 April 9, 1852]
Given this mormonic teaching that is the very essence of Antichrist, you still mouth a belief that the mormonISM bloodless jesus is your Savior. And now you proudly count Loel Osteen as a heretic with you. Such an endorsement!
If you feel you're so often condemned to Hell at FR, perhaps you should look at your spirit directives, because no one I have read here has condemned you because Christians KNOW Whom is the real Judge thus we only use discernment to reject your lies, Sandy. If you feel condemned perhaps you should listen to the still small voice trying to get through to your deceitful soul. Do you agree with the following teachings from your past leaders at LDS inc?
"We may talk of men being redeemed by the efficacy of his [Christ's] blood; but the truth is that that blood has no efficacy to wash away our sins. That must depend upon our own action." [ LDS Apostle Amasa M. Lyman, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 7, p. 299, 1859]"Again, they will try to tell how the divinity of Jesus is joined to his humanity, and exhaust all their mental faculties, and wind up with this profound language, as describing the soul of man, "it is an immaterial substance!" What a learned idea! Jesus, our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in Heaven. Now, let all who may hear these doctrines, pause before they make light of them, or treat them with indifference, for they will prove their salvation or damnation. I have given you a few leading items upon this subject, but a great deal more remains to be told. Now, remember from this time forth, and for ever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Holy Ghost." [ LDS Prophet Bingham Young, JoD 1:50-51 April 9, 1852]
Given this mormonic teaching that is the very essence of Antichrist, you still mouth a belief that the mormonISM bloodless jesus is your Savior. And now you proudly count Joel Osteen as a heretic with you. Such an endorsement!
Well you just busted another Mormon myth (no alcohol). Been dipping in the sauce Duffy?
“When I watch Pastor Osteen’s program I have a witness of the Holy Ghost in my heart. “
And this is the same “witness” that told you to join a cult that teaches Jesus is a created being who later became one of trillions of mormon gods??
Your Holy Ghost is wrong.
Watch interviews with him. He refuses to ever answer simple questions of Christian orthodoxy in a straight manner.
You sure did!
You have FAILed to show even ONCE where an ANTI condemned you; but I have shown us all how many times your chosen religion's PROPHET has condemned you - yet you ignore the FACT and lie about the accusation.
You've done that to yourself. You've been warned and have been given Bible passages to warn you about the cult you embrace.
Where you go is entirely up to you.
Pastor Joel Osteen is a wonderful young man, a strong Christian, with a strong Testimony of the Gospel; he has a great family and he is a very good example
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WOW
TR material for sure...
You hit the jackpot there Sandy if you can rope him in...
Whedns he preaching in the Mormon temple ???
General Conference in April ???
It is sad to see so many FReepers attack his character and his good name
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It was his father John Osteen who had the good character and the good name...
God has no grandchildren...
You have? When? Can you point to the threads and posts? I've been in some super-heated debates with various beliefs, and have apparently offended some, and never (that I am aware of) been "condemned to Hell" by anyone here on FR.
. But your defense of Joel Osteen, who's familiarity with the Bible and the absolute truth contained therein, is pretty scary. You mention the "witness of the Holy Ghost - Mormons use a similar argument. The Apostle Paul spoke on the issue of those coming and preaching "another gospel". Osteen is the perfect embodiment of such a teacher.
He may be all of that. But please check out what the prosperity gospel is that he represents; and how it is scripturally incorrect.
