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Rick Perry calls Obama 'a socialist' in GOP debate
Los Angeles Times ^ | January 8, 2012 | James Oliphant

Posted on 01/08/2012 8:21:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

... “We have a president who is a socialist,” Perry said in response to a question at the early-morning eye-opener GOP debate in Concord, N.H.

“I reject the premise that Obama reflects our founding fathers,” Perry said. “He doesn’t.”..

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To: onedoug
Oh please, I've done my research, you sir would do better by either doing proper research or just stay off Perry threads with your bias bs.

Per Dr. Jack Wheeler:
Salon, put up this hilarious hit-piece Wednesday (8/09), Rick Perry: The Pro-Sharia Candidate? The kid who wrote it, Justin Elliott, is wonderfully ignorant of what he's blathering about.

His accusation is that Perry is buds with the Aga Khan. Somehow, that means he will promote the imposition of radical Moslem sharia law upon America if president. The Aga Khan is indeed, as Elliott says, the spiritual leader of a form of Islam called Ismailism, and is revered by the some 20 million Ismailis round the world.

We talked about the Ismailis in The Pamir Knot (September 2010). We learned that they "believe in a mystical, peaceful form of Islam that is the antithesis of hate, violence, and Sharia imperialism that infuses mainstream Sunni or Shia Islam."

Further:

"There are no mosques in the Pamirs, because Ismailis have no mosques. They pray privately - men and women together. Ismaili men are extremely respectful of women. The thought of treating women as an inferior form of humanity as does mainstream Islam is as disgusting to Ismaili men as it is to us. No Ismaili man would even think of demanding his wife wear a veil or cover her face in public...

"Up in these lost mountains on the roof of the world, there is a form of Islam that should be a model for Moslems all over the world, a moral contrast to the medieval evil of Wahhabi Islam of the Saudis, the Deobandi Islam of the Taliban, or the Khomeini Islam of the Mullahs of Iran."

Which is why the Islamist missionaries of sharia hate Ismailis more than us infidels. So good for Perry being friends with Ismailis. To claim this makes him "pro-sharia" is a twisted joke.

But maybe Elliott wants the joke to be on us. Maybe he does know the difference between Ismailis and Wahhabis, and is counting on conservatives being ignorant enough not to know. His goal is to smear Perry, and is hoping conservative ignorance will achieve it.

Let's not let this lib smear artist get away with it.

61 posted on 01/08/2012 10:14:23 AM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: onedoug; shield
...who pals around with islamists.

That would be Obama you are speaking of. I understand there are smear merchants out there trying to say things like Gov. Perry's young, unmarried daughter is married to a high-ranking Imam and all that kind of BS like 'Jihad Expert' author Robert Spencer who 'worked at' a Communist Bookstore, Revolution Books founded by one Bob Avakian, Chairman of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA.

62 posted on 01/08/2012 10:19:19 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

they slam Perry with any lies they can think of and there are always people stupid enough to believe them.

You can provide facts and links, but those ‘weak links’ will not believe them because they prefer to hate Perry.

I really admire you for messing with them.


63 posted on 01/08/2012 10:27:21 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: altura

I really don’t “get” liars.

If they have someone so great PUSH them - SELL them - make us want to vote for them but to flat out make up such awful lies about (imho) the best conservative in the GOP Primary is beyond my scope of understanding.

I can not believe they are conservatives.


64 posted on 01/08/2012 10:31:25 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: shield

He´s a little too palsy with islamists for me, thanks.


65 posted on 01/08/2012 10:52:55 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

McCain simply cannot cease from continuing to prove himself a pathetic loser.


66 posted on 01/08/2012 10:56:31 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: baysider

I like Perry’s guts.
People who do not have the guts to state the obvious - - I’m looking at you, Mittens - - do not deserve the time of day.


67 posted on 01/08/2012 11:00:47 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: BobL
Regardless, half of Republicans don’t know what ‘socialist’ means"...so I don’t think stating it will help much.

It was stated phonetically so people "got it."

68 posted on 01/08/2012 11:03:04 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: baysider
When Gov. Perry was interviewed by O’Reilly several weeks ago, he was asked if he really believed that Obama was a Socialist. Then, as now, Perry didn’t hesitate to state his conviction.

LOL......I saw that, O’Reilly was shocked, I tell you just shocked, that Perry would dare say such a thing.

69 posted on 01/08/2012 11:20:51 AM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: hellbender

Post of the month, well said and dead on the money.


70 posted on 01/08/2012 11:31:35 AM PST by bobby.223
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To: onedoug; Jim Robinson

...who pals around with islamists.

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Onedoug.....you’re saying that Perry pals around with islamists ? I mean, you replied to Shields’ number 17 post which is a photo of Gov Perry.....

Do you know him personally ?

What / where is your hard evidence ?

You make an accusation about something like that, you really should be posting sources to back it up , not just your opinion of just because you dont like him.

Evidence please......And not some garbage posted on an unworthy source.


71 posted on 01/08/2012 11:34:21 AM PST by simplesimon (" God doesn't call the qualifed,He qualifes the CALLED! "..TomasUSMC...GO PERRY GO NEWT GO SANTORUM)
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To: simplesimon

Any chance the poster was making the association to Obama?


72 posted on 01/08/2012 11:36:55 AM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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To: onedoug

>> He´s a little too palsy with islamists for me, thanks.

In a paralytic way?


73 posted on 01/08/2012 11:40:59 AM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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To: lonestar

“It was stated phonetically so people “got it.”

LOL. Based on that other discussion, you’d think that he need to hold a printed copy of the word, so that they could see the beauty of its shape, and then realize that, oh yea, I know that shape, it means “socialist”.


74 posted on 01/08/2012 11:43:35 AM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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To: Gene Eric

If he was, then he needs to be perfectly clear that it was meant for Ovomit.

But in fact, he said it twice and told Shield to do his research.

His first post was to a photo of Perry, one that Sheild posts on the Perry threads. It’s in Shields post 17.

Not sure why he would post that comment to a photo of Perry if he was talking about Ovomit ???


75 posted on 01/08/2012 11:48:36 AM PST by simplesimon (" God doesn't call the qualifed,He qualifes the CALLED! "..TomasUSMC...GO PERRY GO NEWT GO SANTORUM)
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To: simplesimon

Every time Rick Perry does a great job they pull out the “Islam” long knives.

Here is my response to them:

This has been debunked repeatedly. Oh, and despite rumors to the contrary, Rick Perry’s daughter Sidney Perry is not married to a “high-ranking Iman” — in fact she isn’t married at all. Such rubbish.

David Stein: This is controversial?

1. Countries of Western Civilization have secular governments, which means great toleration of cultural and religious differences.

2. Countries of Islamic Civilization for the most part either have religiously dominated governments or demands to make them more religious, which mean less toleration of cultural and religious differences.

3. Muslims often lack respect for Western traditions and points of view. The Muslim relationship to the West is colored by the belief that Western beliefs [whether Christian or atheist] are defective and therefore inferior to Islam

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/12/rick_perry_and_sharia_and_robert_spencer.html

http://www.countercontempt.com/archives/1945

Amil Imani: “No matter how I tried, I couldn’t reach the conclusion that this inclusion promotes Islam or is pro-Sharia. It seems that the mere fact that Islam is included in the curriculum represents supporting it. And with regard to the concern that the education curriculum Perry promoted is pro-Arab and against Israel, the evidence is exactly the opposite. …”

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/09/governor_perrys_islam_connection.html

Alana Goodman: “Could we be heading to a point where Perry is accused of being both an Islamofascist sympathizer and an anti-Muslim bigot? And if so, can we just split the difference and call it a day?”

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/08/26/perry-pro-sharia-curriculum/

Ace of Spades: “Well, suffice to say I won’t be reading this crap any more.”

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/320603.php


76 posted on 01/08/2012 11:55:33 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Irish Eyes

“LOL......I saw that, O’Reilly was shocked, I tell you just shocked, that Perry would dare say such a thing.”

...and O’Reilly, along with the rest of the MSM ,was nearly apoplectic when Perry dared call Social Security a Ponzi scheme ! We all remember that, too !


77 posted on 01/08/2012 12:03:48 PM PST by baysider
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To: simplesimon

Understood.


78 posted on 01/08/2012 12:12:09 PM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Every time Rick Perry does a great job they pull out the “Islam” long knives.

__________________________________

Yup, I know.........Sigh.........

Sometimes people get something stuck in their heads and for whatever reason, cannot let go of it , no matter what evidence is presented to them.

Me, myself and I.... I’m always up for learning and being corrected upon new “evidence” ..... I’m human and God only knows how wrong I’ve been on some things.

Seeking and learning the truth brings such light and refreshement.
Not sure why some folks are just hell bent on “my way is the only way” type of thing.

Good day to you FRiend and thanks for fighting the Good fight for Gov Perry.
May he be blessed and always seek God’s word and wisdom.


79 posted on 01/08/2012 12:28:30 PM PST by simplesimon (" God doesn't call the qualifed,He qualifes the CALLED! "..TomasUSMC...GO PERRY GO NEWT GO SANTORUM)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Pick the person with the least testicular fortitude...


80 posted on 01/08/2012 12:37:50 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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