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Hot Air Presidential Survey Results for December
Hot Air ^ | December 2, 2011 | Patrick Ishmael

Posted on 12/02/2011 8:09:30 PM PST by Windflier

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To: rintense

Sorry, I should have pinged you to #40 also ;)


41 posted on 12/03/2011 11:41:45 AM PST by Bikkuri
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To: Bikkuri
I've never seen "Grinding America Down", but I agree that the information it contains is important for all americans. It's chilling.

The goat video is hilarious! :)

42 posted on 12/03/2011 11:51:05 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Bikkuri
Have you watched Grinding America Down? EVERYONE on FR (and anyone else that cares for the future of our country and our children's future) MUST watch that DVD

Just went to the link and I see that you have to purchase the DVD to see the film. I've seen a lot of mentions of "Grinding America Down" on FR and elsewhere. I'll have to check it out when I've got a few bucks to spare.

Thanks!

43 posted on 12/03/2011 11:53:37 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: trisham

I can never get enough of the goat vid... like I mentioned before, it reminds me of many RINO/CINO cheerleaders on here :/

Still laughing though, I had to watch it again ;)


44 posted on 12/03/2011 12:41:07 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: Windflier

“Agreed, but this isn’t the 1950’s, when we could afford to have a go-along-get-along professional political animal in the White House.” We didn’t, we had a non-professional, Ike, in the White House for most of the decade. As for as “go-along-get-along” had leadership determined to take on the racism of the South and a foreign policy directed at the containment of Communism which meant our people lived in daily fear of nuclear war. We don’t face that now but do face the rapacious demands of the electorate who want everything for nothing.

Unfortunately, the only possible World Historic Individual (to put it in Hegelian terms) that I see is not willing to step into the arena. Cain is not even close to that.

I don’t know if you remember the 1990s but Newt was the Public Enemy #1 for the Treason Media and most of the decade was devoted to its campaign to destroy him. He was a “bombthrower” and so depicted on Time and Newsweek covers. He was the symbol of conservative thought and actually the one who produced the balanced budgets Clinton brags about as well as most of the productive elements of his presidency.

Most of the criticism of him as not being conservative enough is bunk. For those critics NO ONE is conservative enough.


45 posted on 12/03/2011 9:14:15 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: CSI007

This issue with Clinton was not adultery but LYING to a grand jury and to Congress. Adultery is not a crime perjury is very much a crime and worthy of impeachment and conviction.

You need to be very clear about this. It was NEVER about sex but violation of the oath of office. Clinton’s actions were directed at the very core of our system of government. He was not impeached because of adultery.

Cain is done so apparently there is more there than you acknowledge.


46 posted on 12/03/2011 9:20:07 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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“Agreed, but this isn’t the 1950’s, when we could afford to have a go-along-get-along professional political animal in the White House.”

We didn’t, we had a non-professional, Ike, in the White House for most of the decade.

Ike wasn't exactly a non-professional. As a general officer in the US Army, he was as much (or better) a politician than most elected officials. You have to be, at that rank. In fact, per what I personally know of the breed, that's your primary function at that level.

Ike was also not just any General. He was the Supreme Allied Commander of the war, and as such, had the requisite leadership skills for the job of president. As you indicated in your previous post, no sooner did peace break out, than we had to begin fighting a cold war with the Soviets, which Ike again had to assume command of.

I probably could have worded my earlier response a bit better. What I meant to say, is that the 1950s were a time of peace and prosperity for the US. Compared to the decades before and after, it was damn near the most idyllic period in American history. In a time such as that, we could have suffered a president who didn't have the single-minded determination to rip asunder the unconstitutional constructs of the leftists who preceded him.

My whole point is, at this point in our history, we are sliding toward a precipice. If we don't stop that slide, we will fall, and we will break. It's going to take a "World Historic Individual (to put it in Hegelian terms)", to provide the sort of leadership to stop that slide, and to move us in the other direction.

I'm not convinced that Newt Gingrich is that person, although I do concede that he is head and shoulders above the current occupant of the White House.

47 posted on 12/03/2011 10:14:32 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

The US has been sliding towards a precipice since the election of 1800.


48 posted on 12/03/2011 11:20:22 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: Windflier

Here’s another poll on the GOP race that just got started, so the numbers are very skewed right now. Everyone can forward it around to anyone planning on voting in the Republican GOP primary or caucus, in an attempt to get a larger and more representative voting base:

http://micropoll.com/t/LEzBOZFlnc


49 posted on 12/04/2011 11:12:04 PM PST by BagCamAddict (If we let them run Cain out of town, they will do it to EVERY GOP candidate from now on.)
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