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Karl Rove Says Cain's Finished, Zogby Says He 'Trounces' Romney Head-to-Head
Andrew Breitbart's Big Government ^ | October 28, 2011 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 10/28/2011 11:24:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: USS Alaska

Cain is actually polling second in mitty’s New Hampshire. If he can hold that position in NH, a romney win can be construed as a loss. Seriesly.
perry OTOH, is polling behind huntsman. Unbelievable.


41 posted on 10/28/2011 11:50:45 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: MNJohnnie
I think Fox had better wise up that Rove is not an honest political analyst. In the interest of their own journalistic credibility, Fox News better start forcing Rove to announce who is is working with as a political consultant before billing him as a "political analyst".

It's issues like this that has me watching FOX to a minimum. FOX Business News is all that is left.

42 posted on 10/28/2011 11:51:46 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think Rove’s actual winning track record is worse than that of Dick Morris. Lately, it has gotten even worse. Maybe it would improve to almost as good if he could hire a prostitute who’d allow him to suck her toes.


43 posted on 10/28/2011 11:55:29 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: MestaMachine

I suspect Cain can also give Mitty a serious fight in Michigan.


44 posted on 10/28/2011 11:57:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; FReepers; everyone; All


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45 posted on 10/28/2011 11:58:03 AM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: MestaMachine
Perry OTOH, is polling behind Huntsman. Unbelievable.

Not really. Huntsman wears spray-on tan. Perry wears spray-on conservatism. Neither sells well with a lot of voters.

46 posted on 10/28/2011 11:58:46 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: LottieDah
There maybe more people out there like Joan then we know about.

Or, there may not be.

47 posted on 10/28/2011 12:01:15 PM PDT by Brookhaven (I believe in the seperation of school and state)
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To: cripplecreek

I think Cain can give mitt a serious fight ANYWHERE...except maybe Utah and NH. He is polling in double digits in NH and way behind romney but he is the only one that is polling even that well and he is just beginning to set up there. I would LOVE to see rove swallow his tongue...or at least bite it.


48 posted on 10/28/2011 12:03:33 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Karl Rove is finished.


49 posted on 10/28/2011 12:04:08 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Tokyo" Rove, Baka ittenna-yo!
50 posted on 10/28/2011 12:05:06 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As Cain points out, it is "the People" who must decide who is most likely to combat and defeat Obama. It is not Rove or the RNC.

And, "the People" are beginning to be engaged and to see through the partisan bickering and "politics."

Palin often talked about "shaking up" Washington, but "politics as usual" is not going to shake up anything. "Politics as usual" will simply re-elect Obama.

A common sense world view, combined with a passion for the liberty envisioned by America's Founders are the qualities an American leader needs. In a head-to-head debate, Obama loses on both these counts, if his opponent can clearly articulate his views.

51 posted on 10/28/2011 12:07:27 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Digger

According to rove, we don’t need elections. They are annointed by the beltway boys.


52 posted on 10/28/2011 12:07:34 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rove wants Romney to be the nominee in 2012 and hopes the Tea Party will go do with Romney, who will lose and they can run Jeb in 2016 with Rover returning to the White House.


53 posted on 10/28/2011 12:09:09 PM PDT by Trueblackman (Posting on FR since 1998 and 100% teleprompter free post as well.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IMHO...

The general election is far different from the Republican primary.

Cain would win in a landslide as many in the political center would vote for him as well as many who are conservative. He has an image that is completely unlike any Republican baggage from the past but still reminiscent of a past that Republicans take pride in. But much more than that, as a non-politician, he has the appeal of a Presidency that would be beholden more to the people at large than any political machine. In times of great problems, liberals will accept conservatism if it comes with success, since they know that we do not live in a totalitarian state and that a conservative President has checks and balances on their power.

Bachmann could win if conservatives actually supported her - the Repub candidate in the race with the most conservative track record (go figure?). But they stand idly by while MSNBC, CNN, etc., bash her. All she needs is support in order to be able to succeed at promoting true conservative values. Conservatives should stop allowing the media to tell them which conservative candidates will be “allowed” to be run and which will not. When she got negative press, all these conservative groups should have flooded the airwaves with all sorts of responses that gave her more coverage, thereby gaining name recognition.

Romney would have a very difficult time differentiating himself from Obama to win many blue-dog Dem votes, and a very difficult time motivating die-hard conservatives to turn out - and actually not vote for Obama to send a message to the Republican party. While the Republican machine sees him as the “next in line”, their support of him has many Republicans turning off on the establishment, seeing it for what it is. One has to only imagine how a candidate that is so heavily favored by the RNC can’t keep a lead in the race to understand how conservative voters are wanting either a complete re-make of the Republican party platform or a new party altogether.

Perry would be in much the same category as Romney; perhaps worse, because he can’t get away from a superficial view of his persona being so similar to one of GWB’s. Blue dogs would be up for grabs, but the left would turn out huge to vote against him, painting him as a virtual return of GWB.

Paul, like Cain, would do very well against Obama. A die-hard conservative might vote for him as would so many in the center.

Santorum, having a clean-cut image of a stereotypical Republican, would enable the left to gin up a lot of support against him. He would have a tough battle against Obama, but would get a lot of Republican support.

By all of these candidates remaining in the race and getting news coverage, they keep the pressure on politicians to respond to the will of the people, as opposed to politicians relying on the media they are in bed with (or subject to) to propagandize the people if there are only 1 or 2 candidates in the running.


54 posted on 10/28/2011 12:14:49 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We need to fix things ourselves)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Enemy Within.


55 posted on 10/28/2011 12:17:52 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rove did his best Mr. Rogers imitation by holding up a small dry-erase board

I was wondering if Tim Russert's little dry-erase board would have a second life.


56 posted on 10/28/2011 12:21:42 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Idi Obama = Just your everyday, ordinary, 3rd World Dictator)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Clearly, Rove has a favorite, he’s just not saying who it is.

However, as much as I respect him for the “W” wins, he’s been wrong on just about everything else.


57 posted on 10/28/2011 12:23:24 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'll be glad when Tokyo Rove is finished as a pundit.

He is one of many reasons I don't watch much Fox News anymore.

58 posted on 10/28/2011 12:25:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here's to all the geniuses here on FR who used to post those ridiculous "Rove, you magnificent bastard!" pix ad nauseum. Go vote for Romney, you RINOs.
59 posted on 10/28/2011 12:36:04 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Fall on your knees before Christ, your only salvation!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Just which team does Karl actually play for?

Probably the highest bidder.


60 posted on 10/28/2011 12:42:29 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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