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What’s so electable about Rick Perry?
The Washington Post's ComPost ^ | September 12, 2011 | Alexandra Petri

Posted on 09/12/2011 7:26:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
>> Since he was elected and re-elected twice in a rather large conservative state it would follow that he is electable. <<

Electable for Governor? Yes. But electable for President? It would follow if the Presidential election consisted of 49 other large, conservative states that are safely under Republican control.

And you'd also need a laughably underfunded token Democrat "opponent" for President to replicate the conditions that made Perry "electable" in Texas.

Going by the actual scenario a Presidential candidate faces, Perry is "electable" the way John Kerry (look I got elected a bunch of times in Massachuttes!) is.

41 posted on 09/12/2011 8:50:49 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: RobertClark
>> Split the vote and re elect Obama - that is ignorant and naive. <<

Apprently you've never heard of thing called a "primary election". This may come as a shock, but Obama won't be on the ballot when we get to choose between a bunch of other Republicans and illegal alien luvin' Perry.

42 posted on 09/12/2011 8:53:03 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What's so authoritative about the Washington comPost?
43 posted on 09/12/2011 8:59:07 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Carling
"Are you being paid by the Palin non-campaign to post on FR?"

How could she pay me? According to you Perrywinkles, she has no hope of fundraising... BTW, Conservative Palin supporters are the real deal, they don't expect to be bribed, like some politicians do. Just sayin'.

44 posted on 09/12/2011 9:04:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Watching Perry feels a lot like watching George Bush ... He isn't a great speaker but he has some good sound bites. He rides the success of his state a bit, as if it were his own doing. But he's taller and more presidential looking.

I didn't think George Bush was "good enough", especially when he came up with "too big to fail". I don't think Perry is "good enough" either. After watching Gingrich hit ball after ball (after ball after ball) out of the park, I'd rather give Newt a second chance than risk a first try on Perry. However, out of respect for her Tea Party position and standing her ground on the Obama-Boehner debacle, Bachmann still holds my top seat.


45 posted on 09/12/2011 9:05:28 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“PerryWinkles”.

Huh? I’ve yet to post a thread about Rick Perry. I am only commenting on your anti-Perry rampage. Look in a mirror, fellow FReeper.


46 posted on 09/12/2011 9:14:17 PM PDT by Carling (DeMint to Obama: I want to read the bill, not listen to talking points off a TelePrompter.)
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To: so_real
I was eager to embrace Perry. Unfortunately he has left me feeling uninspired. He lacks command of the situation. He actually seems a little over whelmed. I found myself feeling a little sorry for him. Not what I expected. He is weak. Obama and his Billion Dollar war chest will savage him.

I will still vote for him and wish him well if he is the nominee.

47 posted on 09/12/2011 9:15:32 PM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: Carling

Then you might want to find out who is hijacking your account here:

Rick Perry’s Crony Capitalism Problem (WSJ—8/13/11)
Sunday, September 11, 2011 10:20:28 PM · 31 of 97
Carling to CSI007
I know a dying website when I see it. If I’m banned for supporting Rick Perry over the rest of the announced GOP field, so be it.
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John Birch Society: Rick Perry Proposed Bi-National Health Insurance with Mexico
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Carling to bushwon
Yes, really.

Plus, Perry has been headlining Tea Party events for two years while still serving as governor of Texas. I can’t say the same about a certain lady who quit her job and now is running around the country purporting to be the leader of the Tea Party Express.

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48 posted on 09/12/2011 9:27:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: Awgie

Lot's of folks recently are saying we need Perry because he's the "only one that can beat Obama". Really? With Obama sinking his own ship, I don't think there is a candidate on that stage that would not beat Obama. When Perry appeared on the scene, I welcomed him. I was curious what the all the hype regarding him was about and if he would add something to the conversation. I agree with you ... uninspiring. He really hasn't added ... anything. He's got better hair than Mitt ... he's not Mormon ... and who doesn't like a southern accent. But beyond that, the two of them are peas in the same pod. I voted for McCain (but only because of Palin) so I can't say I wouldn't vote for Perry ... but with the dramatic changes coming in the Congress in 2012, I'd almost rather deal with gridlocking the Obama administration than supporting what may potentially be a less-than-conservative republican.


49 posted on 09/12/2011 9:32:56 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: YankeeReb

“Sounded better” is about it. Not one of the candidates has taken a position on illegal immigration any stronger than Perry’s, which is a travesty. I wish we had a candidate that we could trust to tell the illegals that their presence is not desired here and that they had better leave before we find them and conficate all of their assets to compensate for the social services they have stolen.


50 posted on 09/12/2011 9:33:22 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Jedidah
The issue is complicated when younger children in the family are born here. Sending the whole family home would involve deporting US citizens.

Minor children can be deported with their parents unless an American citizen accepts responsibilty as guardian. The amcit children can sponsor their parents to come to the US once they reach 21. We have 300,000 to 400,000 anchor babies born each year. Many of them receive Medicaid and food stamps.

Enforcing immigration laws and punishing those who breach a nation’s borders is a federal offense. State government does not have jurisdiction. Rather, the states just bear the burden that the feds force on us.

Programs like 287 g and Secure Committees allow state and local authorities to work with the federal government in the enforcement of immigration laws.

51 posted on 09/12/2011 9:35:22 PM PDT by kabar
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To: ncalburt

Look, I have defended Perry on many issues, but this is one where he is flat wrong. The unfortunate part is that the other candidates really aren’t any better. They just won’t be as straight up as Perry on this issue. This is a major problem with the Rs.


52 posted on 09/12/2011 9:35:56 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: achilles2000

Bachmann and Romney have taken stronger positions on illegal immigration than Perry who is among the weakest of all the candidates on immigration issues.


53 posted on 09/12/2011 9:37:44 PM PDT by kabar
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To: achilles2000

Perry has always been a conservative period! He was a conservative Democrat (so was I.) and then went to a conservative Republican about 1988. He is a fiscal and social conservative, pro-life, wants a strong defense, control of the borders, and a strong friend of Israel. I have voted for him in 3 elections and will do so again. He is flat spoken and stands up for his beliefs, and is a strong believer of states rights. He has been butting heads with Obama over immigration and the EPA. Consequently, Obama is letting TX burn and will not give TX a Emergency Disaster Declaration. I think Perry was somewhat distracted over the mess in TX right now.


54 posted on 09/12/2011 10:34:03 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only thing electable about Perry is Romney.


55 posted on 09/13/2011 5:26:40 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: dragnet2
Split the vote and re elect Obama - that is ignorant and naive.

You want to support those who aid, abet and reward this country killing violent invasion?

Feel free.

Which takes me right back to my first question: If Perry is the nominee, will you split the vote and vote third party or not show up?

This issue aside, we cannot afford four more years of Obama. Republican in-fighting may just deliver exactly that. I'll agree to disagree on this issue - I'm not too petty to look past one large issue in order to solve a hundred others.

56 posted on 09/13/2011 5:55:49 AM PDT by RobertClark (People sleep peaceably in their beds at night b'cse good men are rdy to do violence on their behalf)
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To: RobertClark
What's so electable about Rick Perry?

Two words. His hair!

57 posted on 09/13/2011 6:18:43 AM PDT by Fellow Traveler
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Tend to agree. I don’t have a particular favorite as yet, but if Texans thought Perry was some kind of RINO, he wouldn’t have been gov for the past ten years. All pols make mistakes, but too many conservatives can’t see the forest for the trees. Bottom line: there is no perfect candidate. However, Perry looks and sounds pretty conservative to me.


58 posted on 09/13/2011 7:00:08 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Grey Eagle

I think Perry is easily as conservative as anyone on stage except Bachmann. If she isn’t more forthright on entitlements, I may change my opinion of her. In any event, Perry had better clarify his immigration enforcement position. (Yea, I’ve voted for Perry, too, but not without some reservations).


59 posted on 09/13/2011 7:30:29 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Grey Eagle

I think Perry is easily as conservative as anyone on stage except Bachmann. If she isn’t more forthright on entitlements, I may change my opinion of her. In any event, Perry had better clarify his immigration enforcement position. (Yeah, I’ve voted for Perry, too, but not without some reservations).


60 posted on 09/13/2011 7:32:39 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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