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Donald Trump: The new Perot?
WorldNetDaily ^ | April 25, 2011 | Roger Hedgecock

Posted on 04/24/2011 10:25:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Donald Trump, like Ross Perot 30 years ago, is a rich, successful, supremely confident salesman and patriot intensely dissatisfied with the competence of the present ruling political elite of both parties.

Trump is speaking out and speaking truth to Obama power like no one else. Like Perot before him, he's used to speaking his mind in blunt terms. He's not beholden to anyone. He scares the ruling elite. To the establishment, Trump has gone rogue.

I've seen this movie before.

In 1992, rich outsider Ross Perot loudly voices dissatisfaction that mirrors widespread public concerns not addressed by existing politicians. Insiders panic, fearing the power of a rogue voice unbeholden to the usual agendas and rich enough to be heard.

Critics tear at "gaffes" ("Larry, they doctored the photo"), paranoia ("they tried to kill me"), past business practices (Didn't his business make millions computerizing Medicare?), charge "racism" ("you people") – anything to stop the public from believing and following the outsider.

But Perot seemed right about a lot of things in 1992 and seems more right today than ever.

His prediction about the ultimate insolvency of Medicare was spot on. His opposition to wars not declared by Congress found support then and certainly rings true four ruinous wars and 30 years later. His criticism of NAFTA and "free trade" sounded like evil protectionism in 1992, but sounds like prophesy to many American ears today. Perot's 1992 advocacy of a balanced federal budget brings moans of "if only we had followed that advice" today....

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TOPICS: Issues; Parties; Polls; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2012; certifigate; economy; obama; perot2point0; trump; trumpery
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1 posted on 04/24/2011 10:25:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can’t be only if he goes third party.


2 posted on 04/24/2011 10:26:56 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, two things, for what they’re worth.

First, polls from the election George H.W. Bush lost seem to indicate that he drew equally from both candidates, that the people who voted for Perot would either have stayed home, or chosen the Republican or the Democrat choice in about equal numbers if Perot hadn’t made himself one. I’ve only seen one source for this though, and it’s not common belief (nor was it mine until seeing it), so if there are other links to refute it, please let me know.

Second, Trump has stated more than once that he would not run if his running as an independent weren’t indicated by polling as very likely to be victorious, that he would stand down in order to be rid of the golfer-in-chief. How likely that seems to many people on here has been talked about. He’s also said he thinks the race for the Republican nomination is a greater challenge to him than that for the presidency.


3 posted on 04/24/2011 10:36:00 PM PDT by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Geez I hope not. Perot was and is right about a lot of the things he said, and it was enough for a big swath of (mostly) the Right to vote for him. Problem was, there were (and still are) a lot of “squishy” Right, and they were too timid to vote for a non-establishment candidate, and we got The Bent One as a result. Perot’s words I think did influence policy after the election, witness the Contract with America.

This time around, that same sentiment exists pre-election time, but Trump very well could play spoiler. He’s too “entertainment” to easily nail the Republican nomination, and very well could end up on a third-party ticket just like Perot did; and if that happens, just like with Perot, he’ll split the Republican/Conservative vote again. This time, however, it won’t be a relatively affable man-of-the-people former Arkansas governor who had executive experience and who could compromise on politics if he had to that gets elected; we’ll be stuck with a hard-left incompetent wannabe-dictator who would have nothing to lose after the election.


4 posted on 04/24/2011 10:41:48 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hey Roger, Perot gave us Clinton.

At best, Trump might give us Trump. At worse, Trump will give us, Obama II.

There is no upside with Trump. Conservatives can do better.

5 posted on 04/24/2011 10:42:21 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The correct term is not “New Perot”...

Its “Perot with hair”.


6 posted on 04/24/2011 10:42:43 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can do a Perot impersonation, The Donald maybe.


7 posted on 04/24/2011 10:44:50 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think there’s more than one way to spoil an election.


8 posted on 04/24/2011 10:48:06 PM PDT by RC one (Donald Trump-I'm listening.)
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To: Reagan Man

Conservatives have about 8 months to tell me where it’s going.


9 posted on 04/24/2011 10:48:17 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Should the U.S., as Trump proposes, slap a 35 percent tariff on all imported Chinese goods? No, but the sight of an American willing to stand up to the Chinese swells the hearts of American patriots everywhere.

That's exactly right. Someone is finally, finally, FINALLY willing to stand up to those arrogant bastards.

Not sure that I support Trump at this time, but he's saying much that has been left unsaid for far too long.

10 posted on 04/24/2011 10:48:41 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Reagan Man
Ah, we meet again. Someone else - a true conservative - had best start saying the things Trump is saying and soon. This guy, like him or hate him, is at least saying the right things, especially on China, especially on the NBC issue.
11 posted on 04/24/2011 10:50:50 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom
Trump is saying the right things? I'd say Trump's recent rhetoric looks phony to me. But lets be fair.

So far, a "President" Trump would mean a liberal domestic policy and an imperialistic foreign policy.

Just what America doesn't need.

12 posted on 04/24/2011 11:01:21 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

Yup. But more like the ugliest skank in the bar that too many drunken freepers are coaxing into their car at 3am. The Trump hangover will leave us hugging the toilet for 4 more years.


13 posted on 04/24/2011 11:02:25 PM PDT by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will not be fooled by Trump. I have seen Arnold in Calif to know what a Trump presidency could look like.

But, I love seeing the country club Republican snobs squirm. They were afraid of Palin so they tried to destroy her. So now they may end up with Trump. They will get what they deserve.

Econ wise, I think Trump would be better than the current President. But, he is definitely not a conservative.


14 posted on 04/24/2011 11:16:50 PM PDT by nowheretohide
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Same comment I always make. Read my lips Bush could not have stabbed the base in the back, and could easily have embraced the issues Perot brought up. Instead he chose to take voters for granted and lost them to Perot.

Textbook result when you fail to campaign to win an election. If Romney wins the nomination or Huckabee or the like, I fully expect Trump to go third party and for people on here to tell people to just pull the party line. I’ll be voting for as conservative as I can get who also campaigns for my vote.


15 posted on 04/24/2011 11:17:11 PM PDT by kingu (Legislators should read what they write!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will not be fooled by Trump. I have seen Arnold in Calif to know what a Trump presidency could look like.

But, I love seeing the country club Republican snobs squirm. They were afraid of Palin so they tried to destroy her. So now they may end up with Trump. They will get what they deserve.

Econ wise, I think Trump would be better than the current President. But, he is definitely not a conservative.


16 posted on 04/24/2011 11:17:11 PM PDT by nowheretohide
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To: Reagan Man
Look, I don't like him either. It's quite sad, really. But he is saying the right things - at least about American pride, China, and the requirements of the Presidency.

I just explained it here and would welcome your input.

17 posted on 04/24/2011 11:21:34 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom
Sorry, you're giving Trump a complete pass. His recent conversions aside. Trump opposes Cong Ryan's historic budget cutting proposal. He supports a liberal big govt, universal health care plan and thinks higher taxes is needed to balance the budget. He's pro-abortion, pro-gun control and supports a broadbased amnesty injected with Trump's own built-in caveats! You call that conservative? Not me. Not to mention foreign policy bluster that borders on his being totally irresponsible.

Along the lines of your remarks, check out this article: Donald Trump: The president we deserve

18 posted on 04/24/2011 11:37:04 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

Yeah, he’s a stinking piece of offal from a character standpoint. So when is a conservative going to get the balls to say the things “The Donald” has been saying recently? We need an anti-thug to take on the gang of thugs currently squatting in the WH.


19 posted on 04/24/2011 11:50:16 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom

LOL I really wish I could agree with you.

Problem. Trump has a long history in the public eye. A history that many people are choosing to ignore. Not a good move.

Frankly, I can’t stand Trump. The idea of Trump sitting in the same Oval Office that Reagan sat in, makes me want to puke as much as when I think about Obama being there.

Gonna run. Goodnight.


20 posted on 04/24/2011 11:53:48 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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