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Dump “The Donald”
The Moral Liberal ^ | April 14, 2011 | Alan Caruba

Posted on 04/14/2011 9:17:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Listening to and watching Donald Trump talk with Fox News’s Sean Hannity about how rich he is and how smart he is was truly a vomit-inducing moment. The notion that this extremely successful egomaniac would ever be President of the United States is surreal. It’s Mr. Smith Goes to Washington on steroids.

Now we learn that he is going to announce whether he is going to run on the season finale of “The Apprentice.” The show is scheduled to air on May 15. Reportedly he will hold a press conference to announce the decision about being a candidate in the Trump Tower in New York “a few days after” the finale.

This is such a naked sham for the purpose of getting lots of viewers for his show that it should be embarrassing to everyone who has, even momentarily, taken his phony “campaign” to gain the Republican Party’s nomination seriously. Hannity was snookered or, more likely, he was using Trump to hype his show’s ratings and vice versa. In a similar fashion, Fox’s Greta Van Susteren has of late used Trump appearances for her show.

Just as I and others cautioned voters in 2008 that Barack Obama was a completely unknown quantity with a totally fabricated life story, it behooves me to warn voters to GET SERIOUS about Trump.

Running the nation requires credentials that go well beyond being a successful businessman. America has coast-to-coast successful businessmen and women, but if a company’s CEO makes bad decisions, the Board of Directors can fire them. You can’t say “You’re fired!” to the President of the United States until the next election.

Let me get the formalities out of the way. I am not jealous of Donald Trump because he’s rich. Much of the population is richer than me and I could not care less. I understand that Trump has exhibited considerable business acumen, but that is not the same as political acumen, nor does it suggest that it prepares him to deal with heads of state and the nasty events that occur; frequently unexpectedly.

Nor has everything Trump has put his name to been a great success. He gambled on gambling in Atlantic City and that was a bad bet. Fortunately he owed the banks so much money he could write his own ticket. In fairness, all the casinos took a bath. Instead of gambling, the few people visiting Atlantic City these days are there to buy its famous salt water taffy.

Trump is a strident self-promoter. He is bombast. He lacks subtlety which, for his line of work may be a good thing, but for someone to whom we would have to trust the future of the nation, what he lacks most is the experience that a professional politician acquires over time. I hate to admit this, but it is true. The lack of this experience and judgment is blindingly apparent in the current White House resident.

Trump wants to win—all the time. Politicians want to survive with their principles reasonably intact and a fat government pension. It is a whole different mindset. The ones the voters reject tend to become lobbyists.

We have a history of presidents who just stunk up the job because they came to it as engineers like Hoover and Carter or Ivory Tower scholars like Wilson. For a long time, Americans elected a succession of generals because the president’s job was mostly about expanding the size of the nation, generally by shooting our way to the West Coast, or fending off Barbary Pirates, yet another of Thomas Jefferson’s many achievements.

Presidents become celebrities AFTER they’ve been in the office. Few are celebrities going in unless, like Obama, their celebrity is totally manufactured by skilled public relations professionals. After two years in the job, the only things we know for sure about Obama is that he’s a moron, probably a Muslim, and definitely a Marxist.

If you want business acumen, Mitt Romney has it to spare. True, he’s a bit of a RINO, but it’s hard to find a Republican these days who isn’t. Gov. Pawlenty is a politician and that is not a bad thing. Gov. Huckabee was a politician, but is now a successful anchor of his own show on Fox News. He is going to stay put. Rep. Bachman is the political equivalent of your ex-wife, smart and, like Trump, impossible to shut up. There’s a reason we haven’t heard from Sarah Palin lately and that’s because she’s smart enough to not want the job.

I guarantee you that, within one month of his inaugural, you would be kicking yourself for voting for Trump. His incessant need to demonstrate he knows best and is the greatest president ever would be the mirror image of Barack Obama’s crazed ideology.

Right now Trump is a novelty, a distraction, a false hope. There’s plenty of time for the campaign process to sort out who will be the Republican choice. My bet is that Trump will announce he’s not running. If I am wrong, the happiest man in America will be Barack Obama.


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To: meadsjn
>>>>>It's not such tough a choice. Trump is actually much more conservative than every single one of the white males currently on the list of 2012 potential candidates

You're delusional. All the lists in the world won't change the facts. Post #77 gives three good reasons in Trump's own words, why he is a liberal and why he won't get the backing of conservatives.

On top of his being a liberal, Trump's an unprincipled political neophyte. He went from Republican, to Independent, to Democrat then back to Republican again. Trump supported John Kerry for potus in 2004 and his first choice in 2008 was Hillary Clinton. Trump thought Bush43 was "evil" but Obama would make a "great" president.

Then we have Trumps recent political donations. that shows more cash going to Democrats than Republicans: 11/8/2010- $2,700-Democratic Party of Delaware;10/21/2010 -$2,400- Anthony Weiner (D);9/20/2010- $10,000 – Democratic Committee of New York City;2/18/2010 – $2,000- Anthony Weiner (D);4/7/2010 -$1,000 Charles Schumer (D);3/26/2009- $2,400 – Harry Reid (D);8/11/2009 -$2,000 – Bill Nelson (D);5/20/2009 – $2,000 -Charles Schumer(D).

Bottom line, Trump can't be trusted.

Anyone who says they're a conservative, frequents Free Republic regularly and thinks its a great conservative forum, then comes out in support of a liberal like Trump, is lying about something.

101 posted on 04/15/2011 7:24:28 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: nakutny
he is pro life (now)

Out of principle or out of political expediency? The difference is profound.

102 posted on 04/15/2011 7:29:43 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (minds change)
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To: BigAl22

Why, Wasilla, Alaska, of course. Don’t doubt me on this ...


103 posted on 04/15/2011 7:40:05 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: panthermom

“Face to Face The Donald would make David “Whatever” mess his pants, LOL!”

Face to face he’d make Barack Whatever mess his pants as well - I’d give anything to see that. Man, he takes charge of interviews even better than BHO!

I’m sorry, but based on his words and stated stand on issues, I love what he’s saying. Unless and until proven otherwise, he’s right, has cajones of steel, and is a breath of fresh air.


104 posted on 04/15/2011 8:19:48 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: taxtruth

“Who’s the moral liberal???Liberals have no morals.”

LOL!


105 posted on 04/15/2011 9:18:55 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: Reagan Man

On abortion issue Trump has evolved per his recent comments.
On universal healthcare & LIMITED gun control, even his 12 year old take makes some sense. My wife works in healthcare and it is obvious to her that people are having a very difficult time with COST of healthcare. Something needs to change. Certainly not mandated insurance as in Obamacare. But the system is not working for so many people. On gun issue, I believe in concealed carry without restriction is the best way to avoid massacres by deranged people and terrorists. However no one needs an arsenal stocked at home. That can lead to serious trouble.


106 posted on 04/15/2011 9:42:19 AM PDT by Bridge_toofar (Trump/Bachmann 2012 will finish off the Kenyan socialist for good.)
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To: Chgogal

“They think their elbowless front runners have a chance against our sharp elbows Liar in Chief Obama. They don’t.”

That’s what I’M talkin’ about. It’s going to take one helluva strong, gutsy, alpha male to give BHO a thrashing. I’ve been an advocate of Herman Cain and now Trump, both of whom I believe are up to the job. There are a few other good folks on our side but they’re just no match for the Slickster, Egotist, Orator in Chief.


107 posted on 04/15/2011 9:53:59 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: aquila48

“If you think McCain reaches “across the isle”, wait till Trump gets in there.”

I respectfully disagree, but first to your latter statement - yes, DT has an ego (which I think is needed to win a Prez race, to lead in the most powerful office on earth against our enemies, and take us back to a position of respect and strength in the world. However, DT doesn’t exhibit the pathological narcissism that many shrinks agree BHO does.

About “reaching across the aisle” as you say - big difference, if you listened to his interview. He’s right that to make necessary, sweeping changes, it will take BOTH sides working together. But unlike McCain and his ilk, DT’s not a wimpy puss and won’t knuckle under to the Dems/Libs repeatedly - he sees the duty of President to be a leader in uniting factions and bringing them to the right outcome for the country. Being a uniter (ala Reagan) is needed, and quite different from being a sell-out (as so many of our “Republican” politicians currently are).


108 posted on 04/15/2011 10:19:44 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“(West, Bachmann and Duncan Hunter)”

My opinion - West won’t run yet, he’s said he still needs to get a better understanding of many things and prove himself. Bachmann - Anderson Cooper’s made it his mission (along with the rest of the MSM) every time she speaks (in his “Keepin’ ‘em honest” segments) to point out every misstatement and erroneous comment she makes - and unfortunately, they keep mounting - with a followup night or two on it, i.e. her apology, etc. She’d also be, like Palin, very divisive on a national level. Duncan Hunter - I, too, really liked him in ‘08 but he quickly ran out of funds. Since then, several FReepers on here have cited undesirable stands he’s taken on some issues (can’t remember specifics just now).

It’s sad how shallow the public has become over the years as far as what attracts them to candidates, but that’s the reality. To beat the rock star in chief, it’s gonna take big name recognition and someone with the wow factor who can stand up to BHO’s bully style, yet be powerfully persuasive to large numbers.


109 posted on 04/15/2011 10:39:13 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: Bridge_toofar
Again, the facts are what they are. Call it what you like, "evolution" or conversion. Its plain old flip-flopping. Until February 2011 Trump was pro-abortion and never tried to hide it. He even sponsored a dinner for the head of the National Abortion Rights Action League. At CPAC 2011 Trump announced he was now pro-life. Pure political expediency. Trump is an unprincipled lout and a scumbag.

Trump has taken a page out of the Romney playbook. It didn't work for Romney and it won't work for TheDonald either. You can't hide your record. I'm sure Trump even got some advice from his good old friend, Rudy Giuliani, another pro-abortion, liberal Republican.

>>>>>However no one needs an arsenal stocked at home. That can lead to serious trouble.

That is the liberal POV.

Trump's support for universal health care and a single payer plan, is what Reagan called back in 1960... socialism. And its still called socialism today.

110 posted on 04/15/2011 11:59:06 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

What I believe at this point is for everyone to push positives about their candidates. Then we will watch the debates and let the voters pick the nominee. FR won’t pick the nominee. In 2008, McCain was flamed here more than anyone else and still won nomination. So all that flaming actually helped the Kenyan Socialist, because some Freepers probably stayed home on election day.

Flaming any republican won’t buy you anything except help the Kenyan Socialist.


111 posted on 04/15/2011 1:28:31 PM PDT by Bridge_toofar (Trump/Bachmann 2012 will finish off the Kenyan socialist for good.)
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To: Bridge_toofar

Look pal, for your information, FRee Republic is a conservative forum. It is not a Republican forum.

FR does not exist to defend or support liberals, whether they be Democrat or Republican.

That means Trump is OUT!


112 posted on 04/15/2011 1:39:04 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

Then how do you explain so many pro-Trump posters here?
That tells me he is considered conservative on many issues
by many here.


113 posted on 04/15/2011 2:16:45 PM PDT by Bridge_toofar (Trump/Bachmann 2012 will finish off the Kenyan socialist for good.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I dump The Donald every morning.


114 posted on 04/15/2011 2:24:39 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: Bridge_toofar
>>>>>Then how do you explain so many pro-Trump posters here? That tells me he is considered conservative on many issues by many here.

The vast majority of FReepers are conservatives. Some are self-described libertarians, some are moderates and some are liberals. Some are ignorant of the facts. Some are easily hoodwinked. And some are trolls looking to cause infighting among conservatives. Being a relative newcomer to FR, you obviously don't get it. FR has been here before with Giuliani and Romney in 2008. Both were persona non grata then and both remain so today.

My guess is, the level of tolerance will be reached with the Trumpsters and like the Giuliani and Romney supporters, they too will be shown the door.

I think your seeing only what you want to see. After the Hannity interview last night, someone posted a pro-Trump thread specific to that interview. It was immediately pulled.

115 posted on 04/15/2011 2:36:47 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

I am not new here....I just never bothered to register before.


116 posted on 04/15/2011 3:04:35 PM PDT by Bridge_toofar (Trump/Bachmann 2012 will finish off the Kenyan socialist for good.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If you want business acumen, Mitt Romney has it to spare.

I won't vote for another America-laster bankster tool. Mittwit is one in spades.

117 posted on 04/15/2011 3:06:50 PM PDT by Big Bronson
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To: Bridge_toofar

Yeah, right. You sound like a troll looking to cause infighting among conservatives.


118 posted on 04/15/2011 3:15:12 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

The only thing I am looking for is to get the Socialist from Kenya out of White House. When that happens I am throwing the biggest block party.


119 posted on 04/15/2011 3:22:56 PM PDT by Bridge_toofar (Trump/Bachmann 2012 will finish off the Kenyan socialist for good.)
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To: Bridge_toofar

Surrrreeee. You and the other Trumpsters have already outed yourselves.

Promoting lies about Trump doesn’t help conservatism, the GOP or the good old USA. Going from the liberal fire to the liberal frying pan would not be a victory.


120 posted on 04/15/2011 3:45:18 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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