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The GOP can't be led by Sarah Palin. But can it live without her? (From Client #9's sidekick)
The Washington Post ^
| November 10, 2010
| Kathleen Parker [WaPo's CINO]
Posted on 11/09/2010 10:58:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: ResponseAbility
It’d fracture the conservatives. Palin followers would refuse to vote for a less conservative candidate should Sarah not take the primary. Just look at any thread on FR and you’ll see it already shaping up.
Of course worst case scenario is a Perot situation, (or more recently Murkowski or Crist)...but I think Palin is much too smart to go third party.
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posted on
11/10/2010 12:49:27 AM PST
by
dawn53
To: ResponseAbility
Palin could trigger a civil war in the Republican party and cause Obama to be easily re-elected. There are already tensions building in some of the state governments between Tea Party favorites and establishment Republicans.
The 2012 GOP primary is going to get ugly and dirty. The establishment will do anything it can to sabotage whoever the tea party supports, and then they would hope the RINO could ride the wave to win over Obama. That’s going to be the establishment’s plan.
There is also the question of whether or not independents would ever support someone like Palin. She’s very popular among the Tea Party and much of the GOP. But outside of that, a lot of people are not too sure about her.
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posted on
11/10/2010 12:49:42 AM PST
by
jerry557
To: freedumb2003
I now stand ready for the Palinbots to assail me for speaking blasphemy against Their Chosen One.
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Nothing like inviting flame wars. You posted your opinion. There was no need to insult or bait Sarah Palin supporters. Sheesh.
FWIW, election 2012 will likely be all about repealing obamacare, so have a look at this recent Rasmussen poll:
RASMUSSEN'S POLL: 52% of Voters Say Their Views Are More Like Palins Than Obamas
Whose views are closer to your own? Palin/Obama
Overall: 52/40
Male: 55/37
Female: 48/43
White: 58/35
Black: 5/87
GOP: 84/9
DEM: 14/81
INDY: 59/27
Conservative: 80/12
Moderate: 28/61
Liberal: 14/85
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posted on
11/10/2010 12:52:41 AM PST
by
onyx
(If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
To: jerry557
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posted on
11/10/2010 12:56:06 AM PST
by
onyx
(If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
To: onyx
>>Nothing like inviting flame wars. You posted your opinion. There was no need to insult or bait Sarah Palin supporters. Sheesh. <<
You are joking, right?
I invite you to attend any Palin thread and say the truth: she is unelectable and a problem.
Then suggest I have somehow “invited” flaming by speaking the bare bones truth.
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posted on
11/10/2010 1:36:22 AM PST
by
freedumb2003
(The TOTUS-Reader: omnipotence at home, impotence abroad (Weekly Standard))
To: freedumb2003
I now stand ready for the Palinbots to assail me for speaking blasphemy against Their Chosen One.No, I wasn't joking. You posted the above and that's flame bait.
You posted "your" opinion and I replied to you civilly and posted a Rasmussen poll that "refudiated" your opinion.
Your opinion, isn't the "bare bones truth." It's merely, "your" opinion.
Rasmussen polled a lot more people than you, for their opinions, but his poll is not set in cement either.
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posted on
11/10/2010 1:49:23 AM PST
by
onyx
(If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
To: chris37
Better pick someone right now, and get the EFF behind em, because the race started on November 3, 2010 12:01 am, and there AINT NO ONE from our side even visible except the lady from Alaska, and the reason they arent visible is because they are scurrying crumb feeders living off whatever democrat scraps fall from the table, and they DO NOT deserve presidential support until they PROVE BY ACTION what it is that they stand for.I couldn't agree with you more!
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posted on
11/10/2010 2:15:48 AM PST
by
Rummyfan
(Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
To: MtnMan101
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posted on
11/10/2010 2:36:59 AM PST
by
JApost
To: 2ndDivisionVet
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posted on
11/10/2010 3:36:16 AM PST
by
The Wizard
(Madam President is my President now and in the future)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Team Romney attacked in 2008 ... and 2010 ... for Obama.
Kathleen Parker: "[I]t is increasingly clear that Palin is a problem." "Parker ... says something publicly that many of us have thought privately
but lacked the courage to say out loud - Palin should step down:"
"Kathleen Parker: After Interviews, Palin Should Bow Out"
Kathleen Parker: "Romney would bring more than squeaky clean qualifications
and youthful good looks to the ticket.
Romney would seem a logical choice."
"Parker: Romney raised bar on freedoms"
Kathleen Parker: "If Kennedy's speech was an important landmark in American political history,
Romney's was surpassing. With heartfelt humility and poetic eloquence,
he tracked the nation's struggle with and for freedom."
Staggering bigotry of Kathleen Parker - UPDATED"
Rove is pushing Romney so aggressively some folks are beginning to wonder what's going on, grumbled one veteran Republican strategist.
Rove has made no secret of his support for Romney as McCains VP.
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."
The Palmetto Scoop reported:
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romneys former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.
"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"
"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"
"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"
"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"
"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"
Poor sport spoiler Romney doing what he does best:
Novak: "Fred Thompson drop-out rumors traced to Romney campaign"
Said Novak: "The rumors were traced in part to Mitt Romney's campaign,
trying to stir up strife between McCain and Thompson."
"Despite outspending his rivals by huge margins throughout the primaries,
(Mitt Romney, Carpetbagger UT,CA,MA,NH,Mexico) lost Iowa, South Carolina, Florida and California.
The only primaries he won were in Michigan, where Dad was governor; LDS states;
and a few states on Super Tuesday in which his California-obsessed rivals
couldn't spare the cash to advertise.
Only John Connolly in 1968 had a worse cash-to-delegates ratio.
And John McCain rightly did not like Romney's tactics during the primaries.
(W)hen (Romney's early leads) started slipping away, he resorted to unfair,
distorted, scorched-earth negative ads, betting that his opponents couldn't
afford to spend enough for the truth to catch up to his charges."
[Romney: A Mistake for McCain, 7/23/2008, Dick Morris]
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posted on
11/10/2010 4:06:53 AM PST
by
Diogenesis
('Freedom is the light of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
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posted on
11/10/2010 5:03:48 AM PST
by
Outership
(Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
To: dawn53
Ultimately, unless all the RINOs have heart attacks over the next 6 or 7 months,the only hope we really have is, not a third party but a replacement party, much as the Republicans were never a "third party." Instead they replaced the Whigs.
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posted on
11/10/2010 5:51:41 AM PST
by
arthurus
(Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
To: jerry557
The Republican Party and maybe the Conservatives may be finished politically when the Republican Party, with lots of Democrat help in the primaries, nominates Romney in 2012.
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posted on
11/10/2010 5:53:33 AM PST
by
arthurus
(Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
To: freedumb2003
It would seem that you enjoy the give and take of a “flame war.” Sometimes it doesn’t happen naturally, though, and you have to write something deliberately provocative. That is a way to get sparks but does not contribute to any effort to convince anyone of anything other than your own penchant for getting a “yelling” match going.
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posted on
11/10/2010 5:57:32 AM PST
by
arthurus
(Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
To: arthurus
I just wish the GOP would admit that Romney’s kind of “republicanism” went out 30 years ago.
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posted on
11/10/2010 6:35:41 AM PST
by
darkangel82
(I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
To: ari-freedom
maybe, maybe not. But she probably gave you the House and all these state legislatures. Which Bachus actually said in the same speech, in which he PRAISED the tea party and Sarah Palin.
His comment about the Senate was in the form of a "yes-but" discussion. Like pointing out a couple of negatives while saying the result was overwhelmingly positive.
Nobody who reads Bachus' entire speech would think he was saying Palin and the tea party should have stayed out of the race. He was a strong supporter of what they did. He simply thinks we could have won the senate, and seems to think we need to do a better job picking conservative candidates who can win.
Not that the candidates were Palin's fault -- she didn't hand-pick the people and convince them to run, and so far as I can remember, she didn't endorse Buck or Angle before their primaries.
To: excopconservative
He didn’t criticise her; he was praising her and the tea party, and as an aside mentioned that there was a downside to the election, something I think we all agree on, since we don’t in fact have control of the senate.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I see the Wednesday installments of “Stop Sarah Palin Week” begin with the ever-reliable Kathleen Parker.........
LOL
Who’s due Thursday? I sometimes forget the columnists’ schedules.
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posted on
11/10/2010 7:40:24 AM PST
by
TitansAFC
("Mike Pence's Amnesty plan is the '86 Amnesty with a trip home tacked on." - The Heritage Foundation)
To: excopconservative
“If Rep. Bauchus would like a perfect candidate, maybe he should seek out Jesus Christ.”
Well said my good sir
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posted on
11/10/2010 7:53:29 AM PST
by
cull501
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Jealousy is such an ugly thing. I can't quote the exact line (and I admit it wasn't quite this explicit) but in a 2008 anti-Palin column Parker came right out and admitted that Palin gives her husband...um...shall we say, evidence of arousal?
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posted on
11/10/2010 8:11:23 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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