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Palin, anti-isolationist
The Politico ^ | July 1, 2010 | Ben Smith

Posted on 07/01/2010 2:51:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah Palin is often cast as a reincarnation of Pat Buchanan, who tapped into the nationalist, even nativist, sentiment that's always been a strand of American political life.

But in one important respect, as Josh Rogin points out today, Palin is the anti-Buchanan: She's emerged as the spokeswoman for a hawkish, confrontational, Cheneyite foreign policy that would make Buchanan shudder. She just posted a rather long foreign policy speech to Facebook, and it's worth a read.

And she's fighting an important battle inside the loosely organized conservative grass roots to head off calls from some tea party types and fiscal conservatives like Mitch Daniels to shrink government in part by cutting defense spending:

Palin's drive to lead the charge against defense cuts on the right was on display in a June 27 speech at "Freedom Fest," a conservative gathering in Norfolk, VA, where she sent a clear message to Republicans that deficit reduction can't come at the expense of the military.

"Something has to be done urgently to stop the out of control Obama-Reid-Pelosi spending machine, and no government agency should be immune from budget scrutiny," she said. "We must make sure, however, that we do nothing to undermine the effectiveness of our military

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TOPICS: Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2012; globalism; military; mitchdaniels; paleoconservatives; palin; patbuchanan; politico; politico4rinos; politico4romney; politicoantipalin; sarahpalin; teaparty; wilsonian
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To: Captain Kirk

Palin is Wilsonian? And what are you smoking?


21 posted on 07/01/2010 4:30:52 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here is a link to the transcript of Sarah speech.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2544668/posts


22 posted on 07/01/2010 4:57:58 PM PDT by Clyde5445 (Gov. Sarah Palin: :"You have to sacrifice to win. That's my philosophy in 6 words.")
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To: Niuhuru

That she does, for sure. Mama Grizzly is not just a cute slogan. Other Republicans politicians—Mitch Daniels, Romney—name them. They all are pussy-footers. But Palin seems to feel she has nothing to lose and is aiming at the fences while they hope to win by other means.


23 posted on 07/01/2010 5:01:27 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: 9YearLurker

The last Wilsonian president was FDR. But somewhere along the line, someone hung this tag on Bush. Despite the rhetoric, Bush was no Wilson.


24 posted on 07/01/2010 5:03:46 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: RobbyS

Thank God she’s someone who is facing the truth and stating it. It’s refreshing.


25 posted on 07/01/2010 5:03:46 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: 9YearLurker

The last Wilsonian president was FDR. But somewhere along the line, someone hung this tag on Bush. Despite the rhetoric, Bush was no Wilson.


26 posted on 07/01/2010 5:03:51 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: SoCalPol

LOL!!! Still applies!


27 posted on 07/01/2010 5:04:07 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: 9YearLurker
Palin is Wilsonian? And what are you smoking?

As I made clear, her Wilsonianism is limited to foreign policy e.g. a desire to use the federal government to spread democracy throughout the world. If this interpretation is wrong, tell me why. Be specific. Let's forget the soundbites for now.

28 posted on 07/01/2010 6:44:55 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: 9YearLurker
Palin is Wilsonian? And what are you smoking?

As I made clear, her Wilsonianism is limited to foreign policy e.g. a desire to use the federal government to spread democracy throughout the world. If this interpretation is wrong, tell me why. Be specific. Let's forget the soundbites for now.

29 posted on 07/01/2010 6:45:15 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: RobbyS

Obama is not a pacifist. A pacifist would not send more troops to Afghanistan than Bush ever had nor feel so willing to reign death through drone attacks. A pacifist is a principled opponent of war. By his actions, Obama has shown himself to be a warmonger, much to the consternation of Kucinch, Cindy Sheehan and others.


30 posted on 07/01/2010 6:49:05 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

Wilson was Mr. League of Nations, looking to tame and subsume American power. Palin’s not into saving the world with American troops. She may be into projecting American power and preserving American interests abroad more than some (or many) isolationists would like, but it’s not at all that she’s a Global Do-Gooder. At least not the way I read her.


31 posted on 07/01/2010 7:18:26 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
She may be into projecting American power and preserving American interests abroad more than some (or many) isolationists would like, but it’s not at all that she’s a Global Do-Gooder. At least not the way I read her. Palin's own position is very much that of a global do-gooder. She doesn't want to do it through the UN but not only because she doesn't think the UN is serious about the Wilsonian goal of spreading demcoracy. Interestingly, that is precisely the position of the UN. That's why Kristol likes her so much. Let me quote from the horse's mouth:

Palin said during the campaign that the U.S. “make every effort possible to help spread democracy for those who desire freedom, independence, tolerance, respect for equality.” In a September 2008 interview with the CBS Evening News, Palin said the promotion of democracy is the underlying goal in U.S. counterterrorism efforts. “It's not just to keep the people safe, but to be able to usher in democratic values and ideals [around] the world,

Again, Billy Kristol is no fool. He knows that Sarah supports his pro-democracy agenda.

32 posted on 07/01/2010 7:57:19 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sarah Palin is often cast as a reincarnation of Pat Buchanan, who tapped into the nationalist, even nativist, sentiment that's always been a strand of American political life. But in one important respect, as Josh Rogin points out today, Palin is the anti-Buchanan: She's emerged as the spokeswoman for a hawkish, confrontational, Cheneyite foreign policy that would make Buchanan shudder. She just posted a rather long foreign policy speech to Facebook, and it's worth a read.

Buchanan, Cheney?....Politico avoids the truth.

Palin's foreign policy speech sounds like Reagan.

33 posted on 07/01/2010 7:58:14 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sarah Palin is often cast as a reincarnation of Pat Buchanan, who tapped into the nationalist, even nativist, sentiment that's always been a strand of American political life. But in one important respect, as Josh Rogin points out today, Palin is the anti-Buchanan: She's emerged as the spokeswoman for a hawkish, confrontational, Cheneyite foreign policy that would make Buchanan shudder. She just posted a rather long foreign policy speech to Facebook, and it's worth a read.

Buchanan, Cheney?....Politico avoids the truth.

Palin's foreign policy speech sounds like Reagan.

34 posted on 07/01/2010 7:58:19 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: 9YearLurker
i screwed up the formatting. Fixed now

She may be into projecting American power and preserving American interests abroad more than some (or many) isolationists would like, but it’s not at all that she’s a Global Do-Gooder. At least not the way I read her.

Palin's own position is very much that of a global do-gooder. She doesn't want to do it through the UN but not only because she doesn't think the UN is serious about the Wilsonian goal of spreading demcoracy. Interestingly, that is precisely the position of the neocons, who see the U.S. the "vanguard" for democracy. That's why Kristol likes her so much. Let me quote from the horse's mouth:

Palin said during the campaign that the U.S. “make every effort possible to help spread democracy for those who desire freedom, independence, tolerance, respect for equality.” In a September 2008 interview with the CBS Evening News, Palin said the promotion of democracy is the underlying goal in U.S. counterterrorism efforts. “It's not just to keep the people safe, but to be able to usher in democratic values and ideals [around] the world,

Again, Billy Kristol is no fool. He knows that Sarah supports his pro-democracy agenda.

35 posted on 07/01/2010 7:59:06 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: FreeReign

Reagan, unlike Palin and her neocon debate coach Billy Kristol, understood the limits of world policing, hence his wise decision to avoid a quagmire in Lebannon.


36 posted on 07/01/2010 8:02:16 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

A pacifist may or may not be a person of principle.


37 posted on 07/01/2010 10:03:12 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Captain Kirk

She was a frigging VP candidate—it doesn’t make sense to hold her to what she said then.


38 posted on 07/01/2010 11:18:34 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Fine...then give me post-campaign quotations, etc. in which she now rejects the goal of “spreading democracy” via U.S. force of arms. I presented facts. Now, its your turn. Until you present evidence to the contrary, I’ll take Sarah at her word.


39 posted on 07/02/2010 12:02:34 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: RobbyS
A pacifist may or may not be a person of principle.

A pacifist is someone who opposes ALL war and military violence. Obama, who is currently reigning death on Afghan civilians and sending more troops into combat, is not a pacifist, principled and otherwise by either his words or actions.

40 posted on 07/02/2010 12:05:31 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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