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Is There A Grand Old Party Left? ("As a Former Republican" Alert)
The California Majority Report - Red Meat for a Blue State ^ | June 25, 2010 | Bob Reid

Posted on 06/25/2010 9:13:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

As a former Republican, I look at what has happened to the Republican Party with a bit of melancholy. Don't get me wrong, I hate what the party has become and even the GOP I recall in the 60's and 70's was muddled with extreme fringes like the John Birch Society which was railing then about communism and the evil Federal Government.

I recall the election of 1964 when Barry Goldwater and his brand of conservatism took over the ideology of the Republican Party at the expense of the east coast establishment of Governor Nelson Rockefeller and President Richard Nixon. Even though Nixon won in 1968, the party from then on was split between two competing philosophies, one moderate on social issues and conservative on fiscal issues and strongly internationally orientated. The Goldwater folks later led by Ronald Reagan were anti big government and anti taxes. Even those right wingers who rose to prominence in the party were not obsessed with gay rights and even abortion then was not a big deal. The big deal was taxes and the size of the Federal government.

The Grand Old Party or as I call it now the party of No No No has at least four branches: The mainstream Republicans represented by former Secretary's of State Jim Baker and George Schultz and Henry Kissinger and the remnants of the Nixon and Ford Administrations; next the Congressional Republicans especially those in the US Senate; followed by the religious right who are concerned with abortion, gay rights and the so-called moral decay of the USA; lastly there is the new phenomenon lead by the angry citizens called the Tea Baggers who with their pitch forks are looking like throw backs to the Revolutionary war and the founding of our country. The great masses who were manipulated by the ruling class to fight the British.

First, the Mainstream Republicans. There are fewer and fewer left. The Meg Whitman's of this world are trying to follow in the foot steps of former Governors Pete Wilson and George Deukmejian, They are desperately trying to lead the party to a place where they can attract moderates and independents . They are befuddled about how to appeal to the pitch fork folks and what is left of the religious right. Many prominent mainstream Republicans are trying to get ahead of the mob and lead them. They are trying to ride the tiger which may devour them.

Second, the Congressional Republicans who have grown to represent the party of No No No have decided the path back to power is to obstruct and oppose everything the new President is trying to do. They are obstructing the repeal of Don't Ask Don't tell and most of the progressive agenda of Obama including banking reform, our dependence on foreign oil among others. In fact, there are two branches of the Congressional Republicans, the House and the Senate. They vie daily for the title of most difficult to get along with.

Third, the religious right which is still obsessed with abortion, especially gay rights and the right to marry and what they perceive as the moral decay of this country. They would replace the separation of church and state, a national tradition and part of our Constitution with Christianity as formal state religion. Some have even suggested we replace the Bill of Rights with the Ten Commandments. It sounds like the Islamic system of running the country with the Koran as the basic law of the land. Newsweek magazine last week had Sarah Palin on its cover with the caption, Princess Sarah. Palin has undertaken the task of becoming the leader of the faith based Republican women. Conservative Republican feminists. I can't for the life of me see what they see in Sarah Palin but they adore her. She has also embraced with Tea Baggers who have a simple view of life and the perceived dangers to American society, the evil Federal Government.

Lastly we have the Tea Baggers who with their pitch fork carrying followers make up a rag tag group of libertarians, anti Federal government zealots, what is left of the radical militias and just plain angry old retirees who have nothing else to do with their lives. As far as the Militia groups, I am not sure where they fall. These are the folks who brought you the bombing of the Oklahoma City Federal building.

The Huffington Post made an interesting observation about the tea baggers. It said the tea baggers may be a short term problem for Obama but in the long run may be a blessing. The general public might by then see the folly of these wild ideas. Even some of the tea baggers and the religious right are concerned about Sarah Palin leading this revolution and actually running for President. Her lack of interest in details and lack of comprehension of the issues that face this country cause even some of the extreme right pause.

The question remains who will lead the Republican party into the presidential election of 2012. Sarah Palin scares the heck of out lots of voters especially independents. The Governor of Louisiana is making hay right now with the BP oil spill but beyond that doesn't seem to be of presidential material. There are a few new young Republican governors out there who are struggling to find just which faction they must serve to get nominated.

We democrats have a President who is unique in terms of intellect, vision and determination. If Obama is reelected he will be a historic President and a real game changer. In fact as E.J. Dionne said in his recent piece in the Washington Post, it is Obama's initiatives that are reawakening old right wing animosities. The policy issues he is proposing are revolutionary. If the Republicans find a new leader with a fresh face and a national appeal, the question will remain who will truly be leading the party, the many faceted rag tag band of tea baggers or the righteous Christian zealots.

If I were a mainstream Republican, I would be looking at creating a new conservative party based upon the British Tory Party. Conservative fiscally, but with a strong international flavor and benign on the social issues that divide we Americans. Take the hot button social issues off the table and concentrate on working with the other party in Congress to find solutions. It amazing to see how the Conservative, Liberal and Labour parties in Great Britain work together. The mainstream Reeps ought to emulate the Tory party and cut loose the crazies and fight for the middle.

Don't get me wrong, I like it the way it is. A strong vibrant Democrat party with many different points of views but sharing common values and principles. We democrats care about people first. It is as simple as that. We do not think of the Federal Government as the enemy and we have hope and confidence in the future.

The elephant may be in a humongous identity crisis but the Donkey is on track. Yes we have our blue dog dems from the South and even here in California in our central valley, but they share a common bond.

May the long battle for the Presidency begin. The first Presidential primaries are just a few short months away.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2010; 2012; california; democrats; obama; palin; sarahpalin; teaparty
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Lastly we have the Tea Baggers who with their pitch fork carrying followers make up a rag tag group of libertarians, anti Federal government zealots, what is left of the radical militias and just plain angry old retirees who have nothing else to do with their lives. As far as the Militia groups, I am not sure where they fall. These are the folks who brought you the bombing of the Oklahoma City Federal building.

With this, he outed himself as a full-on irrational lunatic.
21 posted on 06/25/2010 11:47:43 PM PDT by Uncle Ivan (Alea iacta est)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This guy is a delusional liberal ...... too idiotic to even be a RINO.

Nam Vet

22 posted on 06/26/2010 12:15:22 AM PDT by Nam Vet (Are you better off than you were 4 trillion dollars ago?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"lastly there is the new phenomenon lead by the angry citizens called the Tea Baggers..."

This is where I stopped reading. We are NOT 'Tea Baggers'. We are 'Tea PARTIERS'. The nasty moniker was placed on us by folks from the MSM who actually knew what that meant when they said it.

23 posted on 06/26/2010 12:29:22 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
. . . . Even those right wingers who rose to prominence in the party were not obsessed with gay rights and even abortion then was not a big deal. The big deal was taxes and the size of the Federal government. . . . . .

I was politically aware at this time.

Ronald Reagan was actively and outspokenly Pro-Life.

There was not a whole lot of talk about Gay Marriage or Homosexual rights, because at that time, the Perverts had not made as many inroads into our culture and it really wasn't on the radar as much as it now.

24 posted on 06/26/2010 12:58:43 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is easy to understand why a limp-wristed gerbil like Reid would align with the party of partial-birth abortion, fisting, bath houses, and communism - - he is right at home there. Normal America is about to do some serious cutting out of the Democrat cancer come November, and this has Reid wetting his big-boy underpants.

(By the way, for somebody who claims to remember 1964, this guy Reid writes like a Daily Collegian freshman. Notice how he childishly tries to push all the buttons by using the phrase “tea baggers” again and again, and blaming the Oklahoma City bombing on “militias”? He’s pathetic.)


25 posted on 06/26/2010 1:03:38 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SoConPubbie
There was not a whole lot of talk about Gay Marriage or Homosexual rights, because at that time, the Perverts had not made as many inroads into our culture and it really wasn't on the radar as much as it now.

That's exactly right. Reid may as well get nostalgic that back in the '60s and '70s people weren't battling over Macs and PCs. What a buffoon.

26 posted on 06/26/2010 1:09:48 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

What a fruitcake his premise is there are dems or blue dog dems but they are completly united? As if, let’s see the dems are made up of radical communists, socialists, the gay rights crowd, global warming nuts, the anti war cindy sheehan code pink types, liberals, progessives, pro choice, feminists, pro illegal crimigrant amnesty, union thugs and the list goes on and on.
I often wonder if they write this type of drivel to convince themselves


27 posted on 06/26/2010 3:18:43 AM PDT by edzo4 (You call us the 'Party Of No', I call us the resistance.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2010/05/18/republican-party-red-from-the-start-by-alan-stang-2/

http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2010/06/23/%E2%80%9Ci-agree-with-clyde-wilson-that-america-can%E2%80%99t-be-saved-or-returned-to-its-roots-until-the-republican-party-is-destroyed-%E2%80%9D/


28 posted on 06/26/2010 4:04:34 AM PDT by gunnyg (Surrounded By The Enemy Within--~ Our "Novembers" Are Behind Us...If Ya Can Grok That!)
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To: gunsequalfreedom
There are certainly reasons to be upset with the GOP but none that are contained in this stupid article.
Ditto.
29 posted on 06/26/2010 10:44:04 AM PDT by Gorest Gump
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My first reaction to this was, “Who is Bob Reid?” I googled and didn’t find a Wikipedia entry on him or any references in the first couple of pages of Google search. The only place I could find him was on the referenced web site, and none of his articles had any comments.


30 posted on 06/26/2010 11:03:14 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Crimson Elephant

I am afraid if the republicans win in November we’re going to see more of the same. McCain will go right back to being what he’s always been and so will the rest of them. I sometimes think it might be best to lose big in November. That’s going to be the only way to get rid of the Rockefeller Republican party once and for all.


31 posted on 06/26/2010 11:04:32 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here's something he fails to mention. The grassroots group which grew and prospered before Reagan's first term as POTUS was The Moral Majority. It's founders were from GOP {Paul Weyrich}, DEM {Jerry Falwell}, and Independent {Howard Phillips} political parties. They united the conservative movement which helped Reagan and set the course for the GOP congressional majority to come later.

It was when the GOP abandoned those roots and origins it then became just another faction of The Socialist Democratic Party. The current GOP has no conservative traits in it from any side of the earlier GOP. Early 1960's Democrats were far more conservative than todays GOP leadership. Somehow I doubt the GOP could ever become too liberal for the writer of the article and truth be known I bet he voted Johnson, McGovern, Carter, for POTUS.

32 posted on 06/26/2010 11:19:28 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am glad the long hypocrisy is ending. People like this author are not my “friends and fellow Amricans with whom I disagree on policy matters”.

They are the enemy; an existential threat to the lives, liberty and prosperity of present and future generations.

Freedom cannot coexist with statist people or parties.


33 posted on 06/28/2010 1:17:38 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Let me be clear. The voluntary pancipation of Cinco de Quatro is mandated in all 57 states.)
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