Posted on 07/20/2009 8:52:51 PM PDT by bintenn
Concealed Handgun Permit Holders Kill 7 Police, 44 Private Citizens Over Two-Year Period
31 Incidents Result in Criminal Charges or Suicide of Concealed Handgun Permit Holder
Washington, DC--Concealed handgun permit holders killed at least seven police officers and 44 private citizens in 31 incidents during the period May 2007 through April 2009 according to a new study (http://www.vpc.org/studies/ccw2009.pdf) released today by the Violence Policy Center (VPC). The release of the study comes as the U.S. Senate is expected to take up today--Monday, July 20--an amendment to the defense authorization bill (S. 1390) that would create a de facto national concealed carry system, overriding the rights of states with more restrictive laws governing the carrying of concealed handguns. The amendment is sponsored by Senator John Thune (R-SD). Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY) has said he will filibuster the amendment.
Because most state systems allowing the carrying of concealed handguns in public by private citizens release little data about crimes committed by permit holders, the VPC reviewed shooting incidents as reported by news outlets. It is likely that the actual number of fatal criminal incidents involving concealed handgun permit holders is far higher.
The study, Law Enforcement and Private Citizens Killed by Concealed Handgun Permit Holders--An Analysis of News Reports, May 2007 to April 2009, finds that during the two-year period reviewed--
* Concealed handgun permit holders have slain seven law enforcement officers resulting in criminal charges or the suicide of the shooter. All of the killings were committed with guns. An additional three law enforcement officers were injured in these incidents.
* Concealed handgun permit holders have slain at least 44 private citizens resulting in criminal charges or the suicide of the shooter. All but one of the killings were committed with guns. An additional six private citizens were injured in these incidents.
* In six of the 31 incidents (19 percent), the concealed handgun permit holder killed himself, bringing the total fatality count to 57.
VPC Legislative Director Kristen Rand states, State concealed handgun systems are arming cop-killers and other murderers. It is beyond irrational for Congress to vote to expand the reach of these deadly laws.
The study offers detailed descriptions of the 31 incidents, which occurred in 15 states. Law enforcement officers were killed in: Florida, Idaho, Ohio (two incidents), and Pennsylvania (two incidents). Private citizens were killed in: Alabama, Colorado, Florida (nine incidents), Idaho, Kentucky, Minnesota, New York, North Carolina (two incidents), Ohio (three incidents), Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Utah (two incidents), and Virginia.
I wonder whether a jury, if asked whether the conduct of the police in such a raid was "reasonable", would find that it was? Since unreasonable searches and seizures are illegitimate (the Supreme Law of the Land explicitly forbids them), a finding that police conduct in the raid was not reasonable would imply that the person shot a couple of robbers.
All on my home page ...
Thank you! I’ll have a look.
Yep ......did you know any of the 7 engineers killed at the very end of desert storm ?
Stay Safe Brother !
...went through initial training (OSUT: 13 weeks) at Ft. Leonard Wood during my 30s (crazy “old man”). ...in my fifties now and building a place on the Rockies over the next couple of years (away the grid and extreme cold, so extra building required). ...no more booms except for teaching the teens with very old fashioned (single action, etc.), big-bore firearms. They want to be engineers (real engineers, who design things to make and build—civilian type). They love old westerns, and the rancher neighbors keep their interests going.
It was a mess from our point. Aug 5 90 to May 20 91 ....run with ODA 591 out of FT Campbell for most of the working 100 hrs.
Retired in 94 with 21 years.
Miss it....
This is the most idiotic argument VPC has used to date.
Gathering statistics by what the papers said is the same methodology they used in the '90s to claim "assault weapons kill cops", also claiming they were underreporting. Why they did the newspaper clipping instead of using the FBI which collates figures on all LEO killing was so they could "prove" a case not supported by evidence.
Seems a new guy to the local EOD detachment there called for a ride from the Greyhound Depot. Someone told him "take a cab".
Wrong.
The senior NCO doing the group counseling#39; said he'd have unit cohesion - unity - cooperation with his soldiers or life would become most unpleasant.
I often thought about that day when I was Watch Commander at the jail or Patrol Div. Served me well.
Now...That’s the stats I’d like to see.And how many of them DIDN’T have a gun?
LOL ....nothing like getting a motivational talk from the CO. Never forget those talks.
Hope yer well
Stay safe .....
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