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VPC-Concealed Gun Permit Holders Kill 7 Police 44 Citizens in 2 yrs, nothing about armed criminals
Violence Policy Center ^ | July 20, 2009 | VPC

Posted on 07/20/2009 8:52:51 PM PDT by bintenn

Concealed Handgun Permit Holders Kill 7 Police, 44 Private Citizens Over Two-Year Period

31 Incidents Result in Criminal Charges or Suicide of Concealed Handgun Permit Holder

Washington, DC--Concealed handgun permit holders killed at least seven police officers and 44 private citizens in 31 incidents during the period May 2007 through April 2009 according to a new study (http://www.vpc.org/studies/ccw2009.pdf) released today by the Violence Policy Center (VPC). The release of the study comes as the U.S. Senate is expected to take up today--Monday, July 20--an amendment to the defense authorization bill (S. 1390) that would create a de facto national concealed carry system, overriding the rights of states with more restrictive laws governing the carrying of concealed handguns. The amendment is sponsored by Senator John Thune (R-SD). Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY) has said he will filibuster the amendment.

Because most state systems allowing the carrying of concealed handguns in public by private citizens release little data about crimes committed by permit holders, the VPC reviewed shooting incidents as reported by news outlets. It is likely that the actual number of fatal criminal incidents involving concealed handgun permit holders is far higher.

The study, Law Enforcement and Private Citizens Killed by Concealed Handgun Permit Holders--An Analysis of News Reports, May 2007 to April 2009, finds that during the two-year period reviewed--

* Concealed handgun permit holders have slain seven law enforcement officers resulting in criminal charges or the suicide of the shooter. All of the killings were committed with guns. An additional three law enforcement officers were injured in these incidents.

* Concealed handgun permit holders have slain at least 44 private citizens resulting in criminal charges or the suicide of the shooter. All but one of the killings were committed with guns. An additional six private citizens were injured in these incidents.

* In six of the 31 incidents (19 percent), the concealed handgun permit holder killed himself, bringing the total fatality count to 57.

VPC Legislative Director Kristen Rand states, “State concealed handgun systems are arming cop-killers and other murderers. It is beyond irrational for Congress to vote to expand the reach of these deadly laws.”

The study offers detailed descriptions of the 31 incidents, which occurred in 15 states. Law enforcement officers were killed in: Florida, Idaho, Ohio (two incidents), and Pennsylvania (two incidents). Private citizens were killed in: Alabama, Colorado, Florida (nine incidents), Idaho, Kentucky, Minnesota, New York, North Carolina (two incidents), Ohio (three incidents), Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Utah (two incidents), and Virginia.


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KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; hpc; killings; liberalfascism
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To: bintenn; harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; ...
Typical leftist agitprop. Perhaps not in the incidents themselves (although I would like to get information about these from a source other than the VPC), but how this sort of "study" only weighs costs without consideration to benefits; i.e.: how many people have been saved who would have died without CCW.

The VPC's sole agenda is the prohibition of firearms in all forms to the general citizenry, leaving the government they worship with a complete monopoly on force. Enemies Domestic.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

41 posted on 07/21/2009 6:46:00 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: bintenn

I don’t think it’s a system, as much as it is forcing states to accept them the same way they all do driver’s licenses.


42 posted on 07/21/2009 6:50:49 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: buccaneer81

I would say DU as a whole is not pro gun control.


43 posted on 07/21/2009 6:51:39 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (Barack Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: bintenn
...but, I think the article is stupid enough without me adding my comments to it.

I've been reading some of your other posts.

You are caustic and obnoxious. Keep it up and we could be really good FRiends here.

Welcome to FR

44 posted on 07/21/2009 6:55:26 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Brevity: Saying a lot, while saying very little.)
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To: bintenn
resulting in criminal charges

Homicide is illegal. Assume criminal charges will be pressed no matter the situation. Self-defense is an "affirmative defense" (to wit: "yes, your honor, I did do X - but circumstances and law excuse me from punishment").

That charges are filed is irrelevant. CONVICTION is what matters.

45 posted on 07/21/2009 6:56:36 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: stylin_geek

Get off his case. Some articles are so plainly stupid as to not need commentary.


46 posted on 07/21/2009 7:01:46 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: Boiling Pots

There is a small but fierce pro-RKBA contingent at DU. They want to convert the antis as much as we do.


47 posted on 07/21/2009 7:02:27 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: Gilbo_3; bintenn

And be sure to stune your beeber.


48 posted on 07/21/2009 7:03:43 AM PDT by TheOldLady (0bama -- Beloved of the Morningstar)
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To: parsifal

parsy, we must immediately ban police cars.


49 posted on 07/21/2009 7:04:58 AM PDT by TheOldLady (0bama -- Beloved of the Morningstar)
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To: bintenn

The best response to the ridiculous is ridicule.


50 posted on 07/21/2009 7:11:42 AM PDT by TheOldLady (0bama -- Beloved of the Morningstar)
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To: bintenn

44 out of how many millions?


51 posted on 07/21/2009 7:16:06 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: bintenn

...and sign up for latrine duty!

And make it snappy!

/s

welcome to FR!


52 posted on 07/21/2009 7:48:41 AM PDT by woollyone (I believe God created me- you believe you're related to monkeys. Of course I laughed at you!)
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To: bintenn
Lies, Damn Lies and VPC Statistics.
53 posted on 07/21/2009 7:53:58 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: bintenn

Glad to have you. Love to take you up on that beer sometime!


54 posted on 07/21/2009 8:27:07 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (This tagline excerpted. To read more, click on MyOverratedBlog.com)
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To: ctdonath2

And, evidently, you aren’t smart enough to read further down the comments before you comment.

So, why don’t you get off my case?

I was not overtly antagonistic, merely asked a question. The question was legitimate, because FR has been infested with an unusual number of trolls lately.

Oh, and it’s generally against FR policy to comment in the title of a posted piece.


55 posted on 07/21/2009 8:36:54 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Greed and envy is used by our political class to exploit the rich and poor.)
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To: sig226

Illegal aliens have killed OVER 46,000 AMERICAN CITIZENS since 9/11

DEATH BY ILLEGAL.
Our Govenment does NOTHING except Promote Anarchy and Promote illegal immigration.

Crimes Against Law Enforcement Officers by
Illegal Aliens or Those Who Have Fled to Mexico

http://www.escapingjustice.com/march2.htm


56 posted on 07/21/2009 8:39:19 AM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: bintenn
How about the countless CCW holders that either saved lives or fended off threatening crimes? No mention? I didn't think so.
57 posted on 07/21/2009 9:27:04 AM PDT by oyez
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To: stylin_geek

I did read further. Seemed the antagonism was continuing longer than warranted - which was what prompted my comment.


58 posted on 07/21/2009 10:31:22 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: ctdonath2

Evidently, you also have reading comprehension problems, too.

I didn’t know I was being antagonistic when I wrote “Ah, gothcha, I missed it.”

Followed by “I lisp when I type, who knew?”

Yeah, those are two phrases that really jump out as being “antagonistic.”


59 posted on 07/21/2009 10:55:11 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Greed and envy is used by our political class to exploit the rich and poor.)
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To: bintenn

I notice Texas isn’t listed here. Wonder if we told them to go F themselves?


60 posted on 07/21/2009 11:59:00 AM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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