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1 posted on 06/19/2008 10:52:26 AM PDT by Bill Dupray
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To: Bill Dupray

I ordered a copy of my birth certificate from the State of Ohio. The one they sent looks different and “just printed” off a PC, and it’s different than the ones my parents have. However, it’s fully legit, so I can’t say whether or not Obama’s was actually photoshopped.


2 posted on 06/19/2008 10:54:54 AM PDT by RockinRight (I just paid $63 for gas. An icefield in Alaska is NOT the Grand Canyon. F--- the caribou.)
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To: Bill Dupray

Wouldn’t a birth certificate from the 1960s have the father’s race as “Negroid” or “Black”, not “African”? I mean, the mother’s race is listed as “Caucasian”.


4 posted on 06/19/2008 10:59:00 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe ("Victory at all costs...for without true victory, there is no survival." Winston Churchill)
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To: Bill Dupray

I’m sure old Barry O is loving our side spending so much time drooling over this instead of focusing on his gaffs and issue differences.


5 posted on 06/19/2008 10:59:21 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Bill Dupray

Obama’s birth certificats is a fake.

Larry Sinclair is believable

Michelle’s “whitey” video will insure a President McCain


10 posted on 06/19/2008 11:02:47 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, educate, then opinionate.)
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To: Bill Dupray
This was brought up on Free Republic a few days ago. Was Obama's "Certificate of Birth" manufactured?

I said the following about the full size images that were linked:

Barak's is compressed a lot more in the jpeg format than yours.

Barak:
1024x1000=1,024,000
compressed size: 113118
ratio: 9.05

yours:
1021x851=868,871 pixels
compressed size: 296015
ratio: 2.94

Also, your image has large white areas which are almost infinitely compressable, so the compression ratio of the "interesting" sections is probably closer to 2.7.

Additionally, yours is a black&white image, so no color information has to be saved. Barak's is full color, so three times the data has to be saved.

Go back and compres yours to about 90,000 bytes and then compare the images. That still won't handle the color difference, but it will start showing what you lose in compression.

Compress the two images at a similar ratio and then compare them.
12 posted on 06/19/2008 11:03:27 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Whale oil: the renewable biofuel for the 21st century.)
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To: Bill Dupray

A senator, lawyer, and world traveler does not have a copy of his birth cetificate? Heck I got mine, my fathers, and bunch of other ID docs in a fire proof file cabinet and I’m just a Joe Six Pack. You ever try to get a passport without a birth certificate? How about a social security card? My mother had to show my birth certificate to get me in to kindergarten. If this is a red herring he’ll have to show something sometime soon or the rumor will grow legs.


15 posted on 06/19/2008 11:07:21 AM PDT by dblshot
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Welcome to FR. It may be photoshopped. If it is......who is going to say anything about it, or report on it?

I would suggest, no one.


18 posted on 06/19/2008 11:09:25 AM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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I think HI mailed him a paper copy on whatever date it was stamped (it was stamped on the back, you can see it in mirror image peeking through in the original hires post), and then somebody scanned it. My scanner puts out a JPG image.

The filesize probably was too large to post conveniently, so someone reduced the size, which would account for all the funky jpg’ed pixels around hard lines/high contrast areas. They may have used a ‘sharpen” tool too, which adds more funkiness.

Let's get off the birth certificate and get back to how he wants to hold war crime trials, or maybe discuss the Ohio sovereignty issues and how the tenth amendment relates to the current campaign.

22 posted on 06/19/2008 11:16:21 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Bill Dupray

give it up already.


26 posted on 06/19/2008 11:23:40 AM PDT by libbylu
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To: Bill Dupray

The Obama’s Anti Rumor website would be well advised to address a few “wild internet rumor wildfires”....

1. Release a copy of the wedding license/certificate proving little Obama was not a bastard.

2. Somehow PROVE Obama has rejected his Muslim background and is fully committed to the “Christian” church he joined. Perhaps a Baptism record would help.

3. Release grade records and rankings to prove Obama EARNED his admission and graduation from elite universities to dispel fears he was an Affirmative Action entry and exit.

4. Provide a convincing explanation of Obama’s “relationship” with the murdered Choir Director at the church he recently “threw under the bus”.... Allegations of homosexuality have not been suppressed.

5. A time line and complete list of the illegal drugs Obama used to resolve his “racial identity” problems....

I offer these suggestions, NOT necessarily because I believe them - but simply to inform Obama’s “truth squad” of the rumors most damaging to Obama’s image as the “Messiah”...
His team seem overly focused on inconsequential “rumors”, not the meat and potato rumors....


27 posted on 06/19/2008 11:24:10 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Bill Dupray

Sounds like bait. “Come on, Republicans...cooome on...take it, take it...come on...”


28 posted on 06/19/2008 11:27:46 AM PDT by swatbuznik
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To: Bill Dupray
Why doesn't Obama tell Hawaii to give one directly to Fox News and put this issue to bed? It would take 5 minutes.

Maybe there isn't one!
Some group should get a court order (I read the requirements) to obtain a real copy since the office of president of the United States is at stake.

32 posted on 06/19/2008 11:31:22 AM PDT by Walmartian
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To: Bill Dupray

Easy way to figure this one out - do we have any freepers who were born in Hawaii in that era?


44 posted on 06/19/2008 12:43:13 PM PDT by Wicket (God bless and protect our troops and God bless America)
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Here's a link provided in the other thread of a recent HI birth certificate. NOTICE THE EMBOSSED SEAL IS VERY VISIBLE. YOU CAN'T SEE ONE ON THE OBAMA DOC!
46 posted on 06/19/2008 12:49:07 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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this animated gif image goes back and forth between obama's birth certificate and a real birth certificate. note the missing seal, the blacked out certificate number and the differences along the edges of the seal. in order to show detail this is a high mg download.

this writer examines the writing in detail and shows why much of the writing on obama's birth certificate was photo shopped.

This is a google search of birth certificate obama. This story is steadily making its way up the info food chain.

This link gives the growing list of posts at free republic on obama's birth certificate.
76 posted on 06/28/2008 3:51:26 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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