Posted on 04/12/2008 1:43:08 PM PDT by lolcap
This is my first post here at Free Republic, I'm sorry if I'm not formatting it correctly!
I realize that you don't agree with my of my views as an anarcho-capitalist. I'm not posting here to troll, get into debates I'll never win, etc., I'm here to beg you to support McCain!
It wasn't until a few months ago that I understand why (as a libertarian) I always viewed the right with respect while viewing the left with disdain. I'll articulate it here:
Leftist programs knowingly create perpetual votes; rightist programs don't create perpetual votes at all. Leftist view government as the solution; rightists view government as a necessary evil.
That's not to mention that leftists are unfailingly smug, elitist, condescending, and self-important.
For me, as a libertarian, there's not a whole lot (anything?) in McCain to support. For you, as conservatives, there's not a whole lot in McCain to support, either.
Here's the problem with voting for a third party (or, in the case of my fellow anarcho-capitalists, not voting at all): the elitist, leftist scum (in this case Obama) might win.
You can't view politics as a back-and-forth game. It's not. The deck is stacked in the leftists' favor. Leftist programs are nearly impossible to dismantle, logistically and electorally! Your programs can be undone in a heartbeat!
The war on drugs could be ended in a week. Just stop enforcing the laws! There would be practically no fallout.
Social Security, on the other hand, is nearly impossible to end (and that scum FDR even gloated about this).
How is it possible to end a system where current workers are funding current retirees? Note only is it logistically difficult, it's electorally impossible! It's a system that creates voters who are dependent upon the system.
How can we wean people off of welfare(and all other social services) when they've become accustomed that money? Ignoring the logistical mess of cutting off millions of people's main source of income (an income to which they've become accustom), it is electorally possible. Not only will those using welfare be opposed to ending it, so will people who feel they might need to use it soon.
A welfare system creates more poverty and more voters who want a welfare system, which in turn leads to an expansion of the welfare system, which leads to more poverty and more voters who want a welfare system, etc.
Even something as simple as a "progressive" tax structure is (electorally) incredibly difficult to flatten (leftists can easily cry "class warfare!" when you try to cut back the top tax brackets). Of course, when elitists like Obama want to raise taxes on the top brackets, it's viewed as compassion.
That, my friends, is part of why this country has been in a steady march to the left. We can't afford any moment where a leftist is in control of us; they'll milk it for all it's worth, setting up programs that we'll never be able to undo.
McCain is not a conservative, I realize this. Still, voting for a third party isn't going to change the fact that either a "moderate" (McCain) or a leftist (Obama) is going to become the next president.
If elected, Obama the elitist (did you hear his comments about people "clinging" to religion and guns?) will cause irreversible damage to this country. While abstaining from voting will certainly send a message, I can assure you as a libertarian that sending messages is tremendously overrated.
You must not allow McCain to lose this!
Excellent post, Finny.
“McCain won’t get away with raising taxes...remember Bush Sr.?”
He’s 72. What does he care about consequences?
99 out of 100 anarchists choose McCain.....
Good campaign slogan. The amnesty you get today will be anarchy for tomorrow.....
Welcome to FR....
The situation that dedicated Conservatives are faced with is, if we support McCain, we will most likely ruin our future chances for ever having an influence on this government for many years to come.
Under McCain, the economy will tank. we will be up to our armpits in millions of illegals, who will vote Democrat anyway, not to mention his alliance with the most Liberal legislators in history of the Senate and House but mostly, he will grow government as fast if not faster than the Democrats will.
At least the Democrats will have their hands full trying to fight the serious opposition we will give them and they will busy trying to figure out why their Socialist policies are destroying our economy.
We can undo taxes, and legislation much easier than we can undo the ruined reputation that Republicans will have after McCain passes the blame on our side. After which, it will be decades before any Republican ever sits in the Oval Office again.
Losing is not such a bad thing. We proved that in ‘80 when Reagan took over after the mess Carter created. It was fixed in very short order afterward. The Democrats will make a real mess of things once again, and the public will blame them for it instead of us.
“Neither of us are going to change our minds. I’ll simply hope for both of us that Obama doesn’t win! :)”
Does that mean you are OK with a hillary clinton win?
(not using caps in her name is intentional)
“a conservative Congress”
We lost Congress in 06 because of the ‘I’ll show you’ vote.
That really worked, ya, it sure did!
WEll I keep hearing it was because of the no shows, however, in my state Missouri the ballot was loaded up for the UNIONS and they got their people out in force. How I know this was because the initiative to raise cigarette taxes failed 'big time', yet the 'Union' initiatives passed with flying colors.... also Talent was not an inspiring candidate to counter the get out the Union required for work votes.
Also on the ballot was the 'stem cell' initiative which played to the medicaid crowd big time and whenever liberals can inspire their base there really are not enough conservatives to stop them.
You’re forgetting one thing- the Supreme Court.
Poppycock. Idiots may fall in love with Obama's European welfate state and permanently lurch the country left.
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