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Republican stalemate - my first post
www.enterstageright.com ^ | Jan 7, 2008 | Bruce Walker

Posted on 01/08/2008 2:21:18 AM PST by jnwest

Each of the leading Republican candidates has an "impossibility" factor to being nominated. Mike Huckabee will run into the problem of carrying big states and less conservative parts of the nation both in the nomination and, importantly in the eyes of the delegates in Minnesota, in the general election. Rudy Giuliani has much personal baggage and a socially liberal record which will make it hard for him to win over social conservatives in significant numbers. Mitt Romney, despite all the money and packaging, simply has failed to capture the hearts of many Republicans. John McCain, the most electable Republican, is also the most deeply distrusted of all Republicans. Yet each has enough muscle in terms of name recognition, money, endorsements, organization and party leaders to compete successfully in many parts of the country.

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TOPICS: Texas; Campaign News; Issues
KEYWORDS: fredthompson; nomination; supertuesday
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I don't know if this article has already been posted or not. It talks about the way Fred could win a brokered convention. I'm a Fredhead from Texas, so this really interested me. I have been a little down that Texas might not even get a chance to make a difference. I'd like to hear some honest opinions on this article.
1 posted on 01/08/2008 2:21:20 AM PST by jnwest
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To: jnwest

Welcome.

Now I’ll go back and read your post.


2 posted on 01/08/2008 2:25:03 AM PST by gridlock (300 Million Americans will not be elected President in 2008. Hillary Clinton will be one of them.)
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To: jnwest

Wishful thinking, but if Fred really wants it, which I still have my doubts (I think his wife wants it a lot more than he does), anything is possible.


3 posted on 01/08/2008 2:29:53 AM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: jnwest
The only thing we know about the Republican race so far is that somebody has to win it, and there is no way of knowing who that someone will be. I hope it is Fred Thompson, because he has the best positions and he is the one I trust. But the process is so messed up, it may be any of the other Big 5.

I have various amounts of unease for each of the other four, for various reasons. The primary system has been so messed up this year, we may not get a chance to eliminate unacceptable candidates and wind up with a nominee that turns off a lot of the Party.

This is not the way the system is supposed to work. I blame the Clintons, of course. They have gamed the system to guarantee Hillary!'s nomination (...BTW, how's that workin' out for ya!...). The Republicans should announce at their convention that in 2012 and going on into the future, they will hold their NH primary on the Tuesday closest to February 1, with two primaries to be schedule at random each successive Tuesday between then and the end of June. This system would be maintain the special status of New Hampshire, be otherwise fair, and would permit a long, animating campaign that will produce the best nominee. The Donks can use whatever screwed-up system they want.

As for the brokered convention scenario, I would not hold my breath. I don't think we will see of those again. Somebody will emerge from this mess.

4 posted on 01/08/2008 2:38:14 AM PST by gridlock (300 Million Americans will not be elected President in 2008. Hillary Clinton will be one of them.)
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To: Politicalmom; jellybean; Josh Painter; ejonesie22; papasmurf; Bobbisox; DesScorp; thefactor; ...
FRED PING!!
5 posted on 01/08/2008 2:49:20 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: jnwest
I don't know if this article has already been posted or not.

You might want to suggest having a "search" function so posters can "know"...

6 posted on 01/08/2008 3:29:16 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: jnwest
Welcome to FR.


7 posted on 01/08/2008 3:39:50 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: AmericaUnited; jnwest

Aw, c’mon! It’s his first day! Cut him a break!

(BTW, there was not another posting)


8 posted on 01/08/2008 3:40:18 AM PST by gridlock (300 Million Americans will not be elected President in 2008. Hillary Clinton will be one of them.)
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To: jnwest

Welcome, Fred head in Texas too.


9 posted on 01/08/2008 3:40:55 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath
Boy you Huckabee supporters have that passive aggressive, sneaky campaign style. Spread rumors and false innuendos.While I do not agree with Huckabee on everything the main reason he is unsupportable is he wraps himself in his Christianity yet he and his supporters are so deceitful. If he and his supporters did not wrap themselves in Christianity but were the exact same way I could at least look at his record and assume he would do the things he did in the past.

Ya'll are like McCain. He is the candidate of integrity according to him so when Romney catches him lying he looks really bad.

Huck is "Gods candidate" so when he lies and distorts or his supporters spread rumors and falshoods, it makes him look even worse.

10 posted on 01/08/2008 3:46:50 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: jnwest
Welcome to FreeRepublic!

Hint: Don't ever admit you forgot to do a search for existing threads of the same article. If someone points one out, claim the search failed... ;-)

11 posted on 01/08/2008 3:47:48 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: AmericaUnited
> You might want to suggest having a "search" function so posters can "know"...

Did you forget the "/sarc" tag, or figured it was superfluous?

12 posted on 01/08/2008 3:50:12 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: jnwest

You didn’t even mention Hunter. Thanks a lot.


13 posted on 01/08/2008 3:52:40 AM PST by ovrtaxt (People seemed to be content, $50 paid the rent, FREAKS WERE IN A CIRCUS TENT, Those were the days.)
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath
Wishful thinking, but if Fred really wants it, which I still have my doubts (I think his wife wants it a lot more than he does), anything is possible.

Lies and innuendo are beneath Christians...at least that's what I thought. What's next, Fred's wife is a harlot? LMAO
14 posted on 01/08/2008 4:22:12 AM PST by Khepri (Fred Thompson, he's a hundred miles away son - READY TO STRIKE!)
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To: jnwest

This brokered convention idea is gaining alot of traction but it’s based on todays numbers and expectations and the convention is a long way off....

McCain will cease to be a candidate once the independants break for Obama in a big way.

The Huckster is going to be exposed sooner or later, I’m betting he doesn’t survive much past South Carolina.

Ron Paul.....Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

If it’s shown down the line...especially in Florida...that the independants are breaking big for Obama over Guliani also...I think that will end his hopes ala McCain.

They all know this and it’s why they are trying to force Fred out now before we get into the meat of it.


15 posted on 01/08/2008 4:30:13 AM PST by Khepri (Fred Thompson, he's a hundred miles away son - READY TO STRIKE!)
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To: Khepri
This whole thing has gone from the ridiculous to the sublime. There hasn’t even been an election yet and everyone talks like it’s all over.

I would liken it to urging an owner to withdraw his or her horse from the Derby based on the odds when they horses are in the gate!

The only way someone gets out of the race is to drop out, no one can drum anyone out, there’s no big bell to clang and a big hook to drag them off the stage!

This is much ado about nothing, a media circus that attempts to affect the end result by misreporting the game itself.

I love it! All this sound and furry and very little of substance!

16 posted on 01/08/2008 4:53:28 AM PST by jwparkerjr (Sigh . . .)
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To: jnwest

The more time Fred Thompson is given on air, in debates like this past weekend, the more people will see his rock solid steady conservatism.


17 posted on 01/08/2008 5:05:46 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Donating to Fred Thompson is the antidote to media bias.)
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To: gridlock

Whew. All I can say is that I’m glad it was #1 My first post AND #2 the first post of this article! Thanks to all for the welcome. By the way, I know many of yall don’t really like Fox News, but believe me, it’s better than what I get over here in Poland. All I get is CNN! Imagine this: when it comes to TV media, the highlight of my week is Meet the Press! I’ll take Russert any day or Blitzer!


18 posted on 01/08/2008 5:07:47 AM PST by jnwest
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To: jwparkerjr

Good points...I like the horse-race analogy especially since that seems to be an MSM buzzword this campaign.

I’d like to know whatever happened to sticking with your candidate until the end so that they have bargaining power if the time ever comes to endorse another candidate?

No, it’s seems like a damn popularity contest now, searching for a beauty queen...there’s no politics going on here, just campaigning. Our electorate has been seriously dumbed down.

On the Dem side it’s even more apparent...the only elect “rock-stars”...They did the rock star act on BJ Clinton, they tried it with John F’in Kerry but GOd could not pull *that* one off even if he tried...LOL, and now we get the rapper Obaama Hussein, politically correct on all the right issues, no substance, no experience...Snappy smile, witty answer....WE ARE AT WAR, this is no time for a feel-good experiment.

Yeah, Fred’s the one.


19 posted on 01/08/2008 5:16:22 AM PST by Khepri (Fred Thompson, he's a hundred miles away son - READY TO STRIKE!)
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To: Khepri
My dream ticket would some combination of Hunter and Thompson. Especially if they would go ahead and announce their cabinet filled with conservatives.

Too bad the whole bunch can’t get together, president, vice-president, congress, all of them, and present not only a cabinet, but also concrete plans for what they intend to do.

Truth is, if the electorate isn’t going to support it as time goes by then it just wastes political energy to try it.

Oh well, I can dream can’t I?

20 posted on 01/08/2008 6:07:41 AM PST by jwparkerjr (Sigh . . .)
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