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The difference, of course, is that Fred is serious about this issue. Mike Huckabee "cut and pasted" a plan by someone else from a 2005 National Review article as his plan, Fred Thompson actually formulated his with his advisors. If the voters want an un-serious panderer, why not just vote for Hillary or Edwards?!
1 posted on 12/08/2007 4:20:45 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Amazing how these guys became ‘conservative’ when they decided to run for President isn’t it?


2 posted on 12/08/2007 4:29:20 AM PST by GeronL (so a gerbil and Richard Gere go into a bar.....)
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Can you say “flip-flop”? I knew you could.
This guy is sounding more like Hillary every day. Must be something in the Arkansas water that results in this shiftiness based on polls.


3 posted on 12/08/2007 4:31:34 AM PST by kittymyrib
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The difference between Duncan Hunter and the other candidates is they either flip flop on the issue or just talk about it but Hunter wrote the Secure Fence Act and had a portion of the fence built along the San Diego border. Duncan Hunter has proven he will take action. Go to www.gohunter08.com for more information. Hunter for President!!!!
4 posted on 12/08/2007 4:45:14 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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Sorry, but I don't believe a WORD of what the Huckster says. The man's a liar. I heard him on Hannity swearing he had nothing to do with the Wayne Dumond parole, when his own letter to Dumond and the testimony of the entire parole board prove otherwise. Huckster is a slicker liar than Willie ever was.

Here's the REAL Huckster on immigration-he's the worst Quisling traitor running.

"Pretty soon, Southern white guys like me may be in the minority," Huckabee said jokingly as the crowd roared in laughter.

Huckabee promotes 'open door' policy at LULAC convention

Thursday, Jun 30, 2005

By Wesley Brown

Arkansas News Bureau

LITTLE ROCK - In a impassioned speech before hundreds of influential Hispanic civil rights leaders from across the nation, Gov. Mike Huckabee told a captive audience Wednesday that America is great because it has always opened it doors up to people seeking a better way of life.

"I would hope that no matter who we are, or where we are from, that America should always be a place that opens its arms, opens it heart, opens its spirit to people who come because they want the best for their families ...," Huckabee said as the largely Hispanic audience gave him a standing ovation.

Huckabee was the keynote speaker, along with Tyson Foods Inc. Chairman and CEO John Tyson, at a noon luncheon of the League of United Latin American Citizens, which is holding its 76th annual convention in Little Rock.

About 10,000 political, community and business leaders, along with exhibitors and speakers are in Little Rock attending the convention at the Statehouse Convention Center. The convention started Monday and runs through Saturday.

Although he never actually talked about the U.S. or Arkansas immigration policy, Huckabee made it very clear where he stood on the issue. In his opening remarks, he said the nation will need to address the concerns of the Hispanic community because of its growing influence and population base.

"Pretty soon, Southern white guys like me may be in the minority," Huckabee said jokingly as the crowd roared in laughter.

He told the LULAC delegates that their presence in the state's capital city was very important because Arkansas has one of the fastest growing Hispanic populations in the nation. "Your gathering is so very significant for our state," Huckabee said. "We are delighted to have you."

Despite several light moments, Huckabee did not stray away from several controversial issues that made him a target of criticism during the recently ended 85th General Assembly. He said Arkansas needs to make the transition from a traditional Southern state to one that recognizes and cherishes diversity "in culture, in language and in population."

"This is an issue that is going to require extraordinary efforts on both sides of the border, particularly those coming from Mexico," Huckabee said of verifying the status of illegal aliens. "But I am confident that our government will recognize that we should accommodate people who wish to provide the best opportunities for their families (and) employers so that we can make sure our economy has the necessary work force."

During the legislation session, Huckabee criticized an immigration bill by Republican senators Jim Holt of Springdale and Denny Altes of Fort Smith as un-Christian, un-American, irresponsible and anti-life. Senate Bill 206, which died in the Senate, would have required proof of citizenship to register to vote and also force state agencies to report suspected cases of people living in the country illegally. Holt, R-Springdale, replied later to Huckabee's comments that Christian charity does not include turning a blind eye to lawbreaking.

8 posted on 12/08/2007 5:24:23 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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>>The difference, of course, is that Fred is serious about this issue.<<

Fred's written position is also much better than Huck's. The following is in Fred's plan but missing from Huck's:

Doubling ICE agents handling interior enforcement

Even if I trusted Huck on immigration, I don't think he would know how to effectively enforce it. But it may be that Huck intentionally left out an increase in ICE agents because he doesn't really approve of what they do.
10 posted on 12/08/2007 5:29:06 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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Mike Huckabee "cut and pasted" a plan by someone else from a 2005 National Review article as his plan, Fred Thompson actually formulated his with his advisors. If the voters want an un-serious panderer, why not just vote for Hillary or Edwards?!

Well said, but I think a little stronger word than panderer is in order. I think he is telling a flip flopping lie.

16 posted on 12/08/2007 6:56:41 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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"The difference, of course, is that Fred is serious about this issue. Mike Huckabee "cut and pasted" a plan by someone else from a 2005 National Review article as his plan, Fred Thompson actually formulated his with his advisors.

Huh? Mark Kirkorian is IMHO the country's leading expert/activist on illegal immigration. I think it was excellent that Huckabee picked up on his ideas. To me, this shows that Huckabee understands how important this is, and it tells me that Huckabee is extremely serious about dealing with the problem of illegal immigration.

MikeHuckabee.com - I Like Mike!

17 posted on 12/08/2007 7:05:32 AM PST by dano1
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I don’t believe Huck’s change of heart at all, after hearing him defend and lie about the illegals going to college in Arkansas. He seems to be slicker than Bill.


19 posted on 12/08/2007 7:22:47 AM PST by libbylu
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23 posted on 12/08/2007 7:36:19 AM PST by gubamyster
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Pandering liar!


24 posted on 12/08/2007 7:40:51 AM PST by dalereed
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This a more detailed thread of the plan:

Huckabee 's Plan for Immigration Enforcement and Border Security
  Posted by dano1
On News/Activism 12/06/2007 9:41:49 AM CST · 51 replies


Townhall.com ^ | 12/6/2007
Huckabee's Plan for Immigration Enforcement and Border Security Today Governor Mike Huckabee is releasing "The Secure America Plan: A 9-Point Strategy for Immigration Enforcement and Border Security."  For your reading pleasure, here it is: 1.      Build the Fence  Ensure that an interlocking surveillance camera system is installed along the border by July 1, 2010. Ensure that the border fence construction is completed by July 1, 2010.  2.      Increase Border Patrol Increase the number of border patrol agents.Fully support all law enforcement personnel tasked with enforcing immigration law.  3.      Prevent Amnesty Policies that promote or tolerate amnesty will be rejected....

25 posted on 12/08/2007 8:02:48 AM PST by TomGuy
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I don’t believe it.....Tyson must be laughing his fat ass off


33 posted on 12/08/2007 10:58:20 AM PST by wardaddy (subservient well trained former shrew tamer for Thompson)
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“The Huckabee (Immigration) Plan “

This should be filled on “Greatest Policical About-Faces of All Time”.


41 posted on 12/08/2007 11:58:52 AM PST by VOA
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>> The difference, of course, is that Fred is serious about this issue. <<

Yeah, Fred was sooooooooo much better on this issue than Huck when he was IN office, right?

Fred Thompson's PRE-Iowa record on the matter.

Voted to grant amnesty to close to one million ILLEGAL ALIENS from Nicaragua and Cuba in 1997

Sen. Thompson voted to grant legal status to Nicaraguans and Cubans who had lived in the United States ILLEGALLY since 1995, along with their spouses and minor unmarried children. The overall ten year impact of this legislation will be the addition of some 967,000 people to U.S. population.

"I think that you have to realize that you're either going to drive 12 million people underground permanently, which is not a good solution. You're going to get them all together and get them out of the country, which is not going to happen. Or you're going to have to, in some way, work out a deal where they can have some aspirations of citizenship"
-- Fred Thompson, Hannity & Colmes, 2006

Fred Thompson: No Restrictionist Hero

44 posted on 12/08/2007 12:28:28 PM PST by BillyBoy (Fred Thompson isn't the second coming of Ronald Reagan, he's the second coming of Stephen Douglas!)
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