Skip to comments.For Conservatives, a better way to avoid a Rudy nomination
Posted on 10/12/2007 2:34:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The way to avoid a Rudy nomination is to simply bury him in the primaries. Let's examine a few key facts.
1) The current national polls have Rudy at about 30%, Thompson at 21%, McCain at 13%, Romney at 11%, and Huckabee at 6%. The other 19% are either going for a minor candidate or are undecided.
2) Rudy is mostly leading because a) he's the only pro-choice candidate against seven pro-life candidates and b) he's supported by some conservatives because he's seen as the best chance to win.
3) While McCain is listed as third here, it's pretty generally accepted that he's more likely a fourth given his high negatives plus Romney's focus on the standard momentum theory of the primaries (Iowa + New Hampshire).
4) In other words, the pro-choice candidate has 30%, the pro-life candidates have 50%, and 20% of us are undecided.
5) The fix for this is fairly simple: If you support anyone other than Romney or Fred and you're a conservative, pick one of the top two conservatives NOW and create history. If half the McCain, Huckabee, Brownback, and undecided voters went for Thompson and half went for Romney, then we'd be looking at a three way race of Guiliani 30%, Thompson 36%, and Romney 26%.
6) That kind of movement would start to generate some buzz around Thompson and Romney and likely improve their poll numbers in the national standings as well which in turn might peel support back from Guiliani (some of the conservatives who think he's the only person who can win).
If you're one of the I won't vote for Guiliani in the General conservatives, now is your chance to do something about it:
Pick a conservative who has an actual chance of winning the nomination and get behind him.
Vote for Fred. Romney is a talking Head.
That Rudy? Why, you are just mean-spirited.
The fix for this is fairly simple: If you support anyone other than Romney or Fred and you’re a conservative, pick one of the top two conservatives NOW and create history.
***Looks like Dobson and 50 evangelical leaders felt that your #5 was not a good stratergy. They may REALLY make history.
Yep. Now’s the time to take Rudy out of this race.
What the heck is a link to MySpace for? I don’t see any FRED stuff there??
Actually your post has made me realize I would not vote for Rudy if he was the last (very ugly) woman on Earth...
LOL! It just makes me wonder how ANYONE that had a conservative bone in their body could consider voting for the guy.
Well it does beg the difference between Republican and Conservative who is a Republican...
I also agree. Hopefully, over the next month, we’ll see more people considering this. According to the FR polls, Fred is an overwhelming favorite among both the members and lurkers. As things begin to shake out, I hope those who have fought the good fight for other candidates who have not gained enough momentum to win in the primary will gravitate toward him, too.
He cannot win with that kind of support even though FreeRepublic is conservative site.
Around 55% of Freepers will not vote for him ever!
That probably translates to about 30% of the general republican electorate. He cannot win with those numbers, not even close! Just like everyone has been stating, he splits the Republican Party and is the one Republican Candidate guaranteed to hand the Presidency to Hillary!
He is Toast!
It is also early in the poll’s life and I expect his numbers will drop.
Did you see this one?
You might be looking at a different poll than the other freeper.
The poll didn’t ASK if people would “vote for him ever”.
That’s some of the worst “analysis” of non-existent facts I have ever seen.
I’ll pick whoever is most competitive with Giuliani when Colorado’s primary roles along. I have to confess, I am excited about none of the candidates. I’m no longer sure any of them can beat Hillary. Sorry, feeling glum, and starting to feel that Rudy is going to win.
Can’t some group put out some commercials in primary states, with nothing but Giuliani clips? “In his own words” type stuff, that will horrify any Republican that sees them? After the primary will be too late. I’d rather we do it now than Hillary do it later.
What in the world would make you believe most would not vote for him “ever”? Fred has negatives as do all candidates but I see none that would make him so reviled by so many. He is not a Rudy and few would say he’s not been a long time consistent conservative. I believe most conservatives really would see a clear and acceptable choice if the Democrat offering was Hillary. And, using your logic, if Fred [who clearly scores highest in the polls here] has no chance, then who CAN be our nominee? If you are more than 20 years old, surely you know that the GOP never has total agreement on a whoever we field in a presidential race. There was certainly not full agreement on GW Bush, but he was elected twice. I could not disagree more with your assessment.
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