Free Republic
Browse · Search
GOP Club
Topics · Post Article

To: dirtboy

See if you can read and comprehend this since you are such a pro-life person from behind a keyboard.

You cherry picked what I said in my entire comment. Typical liberal deal -- spin and take out a small part. What I said was part of an overall comment. You have questioned me being pro-life so read below and see if you are able to comprehend why I am pro-life and probably have done more than you have ever thought of doing:

Have you ever been in a hospital bed almost dying from an infection after your son was born and they performed a partial birth abortion in the next bed and killed a baby that was two weeks younger then my oldest daughter when she was born at 28 weeks. Well I went through that and went to the local and state pro-life people for help in nailing these people and you know what they told me -- go hire a lawyer. I got my doctor and a lawyer to help me fight to revoke their licenses to practice in the hospital or anyplace else -- two doctors and four nurses. They were suspended permanently from the hospital and licenses revoked for a year. After it was done and we had spent the money to go after these lowlifes, the right to life state chair had the audacity to ask me if they could use my story and I told her no. You didn't support me when I needed it the most so don't bother.

I know young women in college who went to the pro-life groups for help and they didn't have time to talk to them. I paid for one of them to get a lawyer so she would have the baby and give it up for adoption immediately to a couple who had wanted children their whole life.

Don't go lecturing me about pro-life groups unless you have walked in my shoes and you obviously haven't. Now you know why I have little use for them -- seen their lack of assistance too often but when it comes to grandstanding around here they do it well.

You don't have to belong to a pro-life organized group to be pro-life. I spoke out to many groups over the years about my experience and why it is important to consider other options because we are dealing with an innocent baby even if they haven't been born. I did it on my own not as some organized group.

You and your ilk should have learned a long time ago that we come from different walks of life before lecturing people on how superior you are.


444 posted on 01/28/2007 8:42:23 PM PST by PhiKapMom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 404 | View Replies ]


To: PhiKapMom
You cherry picked what I said in my entire comment

YOU ARE THE ONE who impunged the motives of pro-life organizations.

YOU ARE THE ONE who then compared them to the ACLU.

THESE ARE YOUR WORDS. NOT MINE.

448 posted on 01/28/2007 8:43:27 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08 - rationalization not required, he IS a conservative already)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 444 | View Replies ]

To: PhiKapMom
I'm sorry you had such a bad experience with a couple of pro-life groups years ago. I've had only good experiences with every pro-life group with which I've been associated or donated to. They're not perfect and they are most definitely underfunded and operating on a shoe string most of the time. The abortion industry has them outspent by a wide margin. They don't have the resources to deal with every situation and they are mostly about educating, lobbying, and political activism. You came to them with a problem that they were not equipped or funded to handle.

You did the right thing and got a lawyer to go after the butchers that killed the infant in your hospital room. That was the right thing to do. The pro-life organization gave you the right advice. They should have recommended an attorney, however. Probably should have found you one that would have worked, independently form them, pro bono. But you can't judge the entire pro-life movement on that.

The pregnant girl you helped should have gone to a crisis pregnancy center who provides abortion alternatives. Again, the pro-life group should have put her in touch with them. I'm bewildered as to why they did not unless you had no such organizations in your area. Did she approach a pro-life church for help? I know for a fact that she could have got help from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and her child would have been placed with a very grateful, loving family.

I just can't understand, however, that given the horrible experience that you went through, and knowing beyond a doubt that abortion is murder, that you would show such disdain for other pro-life people who have similar experiences or have come through their own path to realize that every human life is sacred and deserves protection. And what I really can't understand is how you could support Giuliani who is the most pro-abortion Republican presidential candidate ever. This guy supports partial birth abortion and said he would pay to have his own grandchild butchered if his daughtered asked him to. I've never, in my life, encountered a Republican with a more extreme pro-abortion stance and record as Giuliani's. Yet, you continue to support him by coming to his defense and slamming the pro-life conservatives who are fighting his nomination. I can't conceive of what twisted values can put someone in the position where you are. And given the experience you described, I am at a total loss to explain how someone could arrive at the position you're constantly taking here.

499 posted on 01/28/2007 9:25:38 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 444 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
GOP Club
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson