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Chuck Muth's ELECTION POST MORTEM
DC CONFIDENTIAL ^ | 11-08-06 | Chuck Muth

Posted on 11/09/2006 6:33:51 PM PST by Jo Nuvark

Chuck Muth's DC CONFIDENTIAL

November 8, 2006

ELECTION POST-MORTEM

While most Republicans woke up this morning lamenting Armageddon Tuesday, some of us didn't lose any sleep over the election results. Happy at the prospect of two years with Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi running Congress? Hardly. But there are a lot of silver linings behind these otherwise dark clouds.

(Excerpt) Read more at citizenoutreach.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties
KEYWORDS: confidential; conservative; cutnrunrepublicans; dc; petitions
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To: Huber

Your post made me think of something.

Our guys just fall apart when they are accused of something. They feel obliged to defend these attacks because hopefully they are men and women of character. However, that's where we lose it every time.

Somebody needs to get control of this and teach how to avoid getting side tracked by snipe attacks. We could take a lesson from Arnold.

We need to include this "fix" in our '08 strategy.

I like your terms.


21 posted on 11/11/2006 1:53:12 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark
Democrats didn't win; Republicans lost.

That's not particularly comforting. you can say of 1994 that Republicans didn't win, democrats lost, and you would be right. It took them 12 years to win back the House, and that's when they WE didn't really 'win.'

22 posted on 11/11/2006 1:54:55 PM PST by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: Jo Nuvark
How about "Animal Farm" Tuesday... as in "some conservatives are more conservative than others"
23 posted on 11/11/2006 2:03:32 PM PST by Fudd Fan (Liberal RATs will get us all killed.)
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To: Fudd Fan

"Animal Farm" Tuesday

I'm likin's it Fudd Fan. Good job. Will add it to list.

Jo


24 posted on 11/11/2006 2:29:53 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: HitmanLV; Fudd Fan; photodawg; Huber; HonestConservative

There's nothing comforting about this election.
Stupid is as stupid does.

"Stuck on Stupid" Tuesday.


25 posted on 11/11/2006 2:31:51 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Update

The "Red Tuesday" Phenomenon
"Eating Our Young" Disorder
"Shoot Ourselves In The Foot" Syndrome
"Stuck on Stupid" Tuesday
"Animal Farm" Tuesday


26 posted on 11/11/2006 3:28:19 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Speaking of strategy, our side needs to read von Clawswitz. The Democrats understand that war is politics by other means. We think if we make nicey-nice, the other side will stop trying to transform our country into a dictatorship of the proleteriat.

The worst thing is when we nominate "electable" RINO's because we need the numbers. They ultimately undermine our credibility, force bizarre policies, and get involved in some form of scandal. All of this simply gives the leftists real ammunition to call us fiscally irresponsible, corrupt and more interested in protecting our own than protecting congressional pages.


27 posted on 11/11/2006 3:31:54 PM PST by Huber ("Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of classes - our ancestors." - G K Chesterton)
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To: Huber

You are a great thinker. Way over my head. But, what
do you think of "The Art of War" for a strategic handbook?


28 posted on 11/11/2006 3:58:39 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Huber

I just sent your suggestion about Clawswitz to Bobby
Eberle over at the GOP website. We need a Clauwswitz /
Sun Tzu bootcamp for our candidates. It could only help.

While we're talking about it, I left my women's Republican
organization because it was petty. Not once, did they
attempt to teach how to engage the enemy with a persuasive
defense of conservatism. What I did learn was that the
organization was impotent.

Jo


29 posted on 11/11/2006 4:14:34 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Give Bobby my best. We had a good discussion over drinks a few CPACs ago.

We (our family) have given up on playing an active role within the party. As you point out, its petty, and attracts lots of self serving folks. We have more influence through pure conservative channels, where we can support Republican candidates selectively, so that our money and time go to the Santorums and not the Chaffees of the party. I particularly like the Heritage Foundation, and The Club for Growth, as well as ISI for the work they do in restoring higher education.

On your other point, Sun Tzu is always worth reading, but a good conservative should be conversant with the classics in general.


30 posted on 11/11/2006 6:18:53 PM PST by Huber ("Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of classes - our ancestors." - G K Chesterton)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Give Bobby my best. We had a good discussion over drinks a few CPACs ago.

We (our family) have given up on playing an active role within the party. As you point out, its petty, and attracts lots of self serving folks. We have more influence through pure conservative channels, where we can support Republican candidates selectively, so that our money and time go to the Santorums and not the Chaffees of the party. I particularly like the Heritage Foundation, and The Club for Growth, as well as ISI for the work they do in restoring higher education.

On your other point, Sun Tzu is always worth reading, but a good conservative should be conversant with the classics in general.


31 posted on 11/11/2006 6:19:42 PM PST by Huber ("Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of classes - our ancestors." - G K Chesterton)
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To: Huber

[...a good conservative should be conversant with
the classics in general...]

Spoken like a true intellectual.

Our party needs to unencumber itself and get back to
fundamental rules of engagement. How hard is that?

PROBLEM: Our guy is hypothetically accused of ...
(gasp) ... having red hair. Then our guy acts like
having red hair is a moral indiscretion.

EXAMPLE: So what if Allen called someone a "macaca".
He should have said, "yeah, what of it? Are you such
a weanie, you can't take a little name calling?"

Foley's homosexuality is only an issue because his
political values are conservative. He knew eventually
this attack would come and should have prepared a
response other than running off to rehab.

SOLUTION: Our team needs "snappy come-back" coaching.


32 posted on 11/11/2006 6:48:31 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Two very different situations. Allen chose a word poorly, but failed to recover effectively. He could have used some tactical skills for that situation.

Foley had a weakness that resulted in actions fundamentally inconsistent with conservatism. Conservatives do not flirt with kids young enough to be their children, let alone with members of the same sex. If Foley's homosexuality was well known he should have been ministered to, but also counseled to step aside. When someone has a moral conflict with the principle of their party, it is no different than any other conflict of interest situation.

If you are a democrat, it's perfectly consistent to have "flexible" morals. But if you claim to be a conservative, you must live as one.


33 posted on 11/11/2006 7:46:24 PM PST by Huber ("Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of classes - our ancestors." - G K Chesterton)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Two very different situations. Allen chose a word poorly, but failed to recover effectively. He could have used some tactical skills for that situation.

Foley had a weakness that resulted in actions fundamentally inconsistent with conservatism. Conservatives do not flirt with kids young enough to be their children, let alone with members of the same sex. If Foley's homosexuality was well known he should have been ministered to, but also counseled to step aside. When someone has a moral conflict with the principle of their party, it is no different than any other conflict of interest situation.

If you are a democrat, it's perfectly consistent to have "flexible" morals. But if you claim to be a conservative, you must live as one.


34 posted on 11/11/2006 7:49:22 PM PST by Huber ("Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of classes - our ancestors." - G K Chesterton)
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To: Huber

[...If you are a democrat, it's perfectly consistent to have "flexible" morals...]

Awesome statement.

What has come back to bite is the idea that fiscal conservatism can cohabit with social liberalism.

SIDEBAR: Foley could have exposed the hypocritical four fingers pointing back to his fellow gay accusers.


35 posted on 11/11/2006 7:58:38 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Precisely!


36 posted on 11/11/2006 8:35:33 PM PST by Huber ("Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of classes - our ancestors." - G K Chesterton)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Hello Jo! Good to see you!


37 posted on 11/12/2006 4:47:44 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

Hun! Great to hear from you. I've been off line for a while because of the move. How are you feeling?


38 posted on 11/12/2006 8:35:48 AM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark
Let me get this straight.

Angry about Immigration, the American voters fired the ONLY people in DC, US House Republicans, that fought for a tough on the border stand.

People can kid themselves all they want but their every political whimsy is not validated by the Republican losing. The Republicans lost because the Conservative Media was more interested in shooting their own in the back then fighting the Democrats on anything. There is utterly no indication that is going to change anytime soon.

Voters turned on the Junk Media and heard "the GOP Stinks" they then went to what is supposedly the "Conservative" side of the media and heard "Yeah, the GOP" sucks.

As long as our media is more interested in serving as the Democrat Noise Machine's echo chamber then having the emotional and mental discipline to accept the fact that NOT every thing can be dealt with 100% to their emotional whimsy the second they decide to want it, we will continue to lose.

Given how tough it is to unseat incumbents and the crippling effect CFR has on challengers, there is utterly no reason to assume that the composition of the current Congress will change anytime soon.

Pretty desperately bad consequences for the future of our country just so some spoiled brat children could send a message about how angry they were their political glass was only 70% full.

May God have mercy on them, the Democrats surely will not.
39 posted on 11/19/2006 2:49:50 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Your post is accurate and cathartic.
If only you could run the world.

Bottom line... I have a very bad feeling
about this.

Mom


40 posted on 11/19/2006 12:38:18 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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