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Potts dodges payback for independent streak
Richmond Times Dispatch ^ | April 8, 2005 | Jeff Schapiro

Posted on 04/07/2005 6:09:09 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands

Conservative Republicans in the Virginia Senate yesterday failed to strip breakaway Republican H. Russell Potts Jr. of his committee assignments as punishment for his independent bid for governor.

Potts, a curmudgeonly Winchester sports promoter elected in 1991, survived on a procedural ruling by the GOP-controlled Senate's president, Lt. Gov. Timothy M. Kaine, the likely Democratic nominee for governor.

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TOPICS: Virginia; Campaign News; Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: governor; kaine; kilgore; potts; rinos; russellpotts; senate; vageneralassembly; virginia

1 posted on 04/07/2005 6:09:09 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: EDINVA; iceskater; xyz123; Mudboy Slim; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; GeorgeW23225; ...
Sesame Street is brought to you today by the letter "C"

"C" stands for "collusion"

2 posted on 04/07/2005 6:11:25 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (tagline temporarily unavailable)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Ya think?????????????


3 posted on 04/07/2005 6:22:34 AM PDT by Gabz (John Paul II, pray for us.)
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To: Gabz

No doubt in my mind.


4 posted on 04/07/2005 6:40:57 AM PDT by P8riot (Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.)
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To: P8riot; Corin Stormhands

OK - now that I've had a chance to wake up, ingest some caffeine and read the full article.....I still agree this doesn't exactly pass the smell test.

OTOH - I know I personally used a similar constitutional provision in Delaware to kill legislation on more than one occassion.

Could they have not finished the constitutionally mandated business of the session, adjourned the session and turned around and come back into session to address other issues? that was also frequently done in Delaware to get around the constitutional restraints of specially called sessions.

I realize these sound like dumb questions - but I'm trying to learn the system as quickly as I can.


5 posted on 04/07/2005 6:56:31 AM PDT by Gabz (John Paul II, pray for us.)
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To: Gabz; P8riot; Mudboy Slim

Oh, I have no doubt that this passes the "letter" of the law. But it stinketh to high heaven.

I'm convinced that Potts and Kaine signed a deal and that Linwood Holton was chief negotiator.

Mark my words. If (God forbid) Kaine wins, Potts will get a high level appointment.


6 posted on 04/07/2005 7:06:07 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (tagline temporarily unavailable)
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To: Corin Stormhands

In case you didn't see this from Sen. Cuccinelli.




Dear Fellow Republicans,

While it may not come as a surprise, it was nevertheless shocking.

About an hour ago, I requested that the Lt. Governor, Tim Kaine, the presiding officer in the Senate, find that Senator Russ Potts had left the Republican Party. This would have been a ruling under Senate Rule 20(a), and Senator Potts would have lost all of his committee assignments as a result.

However, in a desperate attempt to avoid making a ruling, Kaine held that the Virginia Constitution doesn't allow us to consider such "business" as enforcing our own rules during the veto session!

Tim wants to be the leader of the Commonwealth and yet he abandoned the simple leadership obligation of making a ruling as President of the Senate. How's that for leadership?

Naturally, I appealed his ruling to the full Senate. With Senator Potts recusing himself from the vote, and only 37 total Senators present, we only needed 18 votes to prevail. Unfortunately, only 9 Republicans voted to reject Tim Kaine's ruling protecting Russ Potts.

The 8 joining me were Bill Bolling, Jay O'Brien, Brandon Bell, Nick Rerras, Mark Obenshain, Frank Ruff, Steve Martin and Steve Newman.

Some of the Potts/Kaine votes came from Republican Senators that have been publicly professing their intention to take strong action on this issue, and yet when the time came to vote, sadly, they were not with us.

To me, attempting to enforce Senate Rule 20(a) was a simple act of keeping faith with the GOP grassroots. Unfortunately, many others did not agree with my effort, as evidenced by the vote.

On your behalf, I tried. I'm sorry that I did not succeed. But I'll keep fighting for you.

Sincerely,

Senator Ken Cuccinelli


7 posted on 04/07/2005 7:08:19 AM PDT by Nick The Freeper
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To: Corin Stormhands

I don't disagree.

It smells like bait that got left in the cooler after a fishing trip.


8 posted on 04/07/2005 7:11:11 AM PDT by Gabz (John Paul II, pray for us.)
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To: Nick The Freeper
The 8 joining me were Bill Bolling, Jay O'Brien, Brandon Bell, Nick Rerras, Mark Obenshain, Frank Ruff, Steve Martin and Steve Newman.

I'm glad to see that my Senator is acting responsibly.

9 posted on 04/07/2005 7:13:22 AM PDT by Gabz (John Paul II, pray for us.)
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To: Gabz

I wish mine (Watkins) was.


10 posted on 04/07/2005 7:13:59 AM PDT by Nick The Freeper
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To: Nick The Freeper; Gabz; P8riot

With a couple of exceptions, those are basically the same Senators who voted against last year's tax increase.


11 posted on 04/07/2005 7:20:29 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (tagline temporarily unavailable)
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To: Gabz
The 8 joining me were Bill Bolling, Jay O'Brien, Brandon Bell, Nick Rerras, Mark Obenshain, Frank Ruff, Steve Martin and Steve Newman.

I'm glad to see that my Senator is acting responsibly.

Mine too.

12 posted on 04/07/2005 7:21:06 AM PDT by P8riot (Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

That was going to be my next question.


13 posted on 04/07/2005 7:25:33 AM PDT by Gabz (John Paul II, pray for us.)
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To: Gabz; Mudboy Slim; P8riot; Nick The Freeper; iceskater; Flora McDonald; Coop
I missed this in the TimesDisgrace on Monday. But it's posted on the Kilgore website.

In Brief

April 4, 2005
Richmond Times-Dispatch

At a campaign stop for his son-in-law Tim Kaine, former Republican Governor Linwood Holton said, "The press asks me questions about a Republican voting for a Democrat. They make me sound like a skunk at a garden party. But I'm a reasonable Republican." This particular "reasonable Republican" supported Chuck Robb in 2000 and Mark Warner in 2001. He declined to endorse Jim Gilmore in 1997, and remained strangely silent -- perhaps a first for him in his lifetime -- during the Warner vs. Warner battle in 1996. Question: When does a "reasonable Republican" become a Democrat by another name?

14 posted on 04/07/2005 10:01:56 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (tagline temporarily unavailable)
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To: Corin Stormhands

I've created an audio file of the debate and posted on Sic Semper Tyrannis.

http://sicsempertyrannis.blogspot.com/2005/04/audio-file-of-russ-potts-failed-ouster.html

Sen. Cuccinelli is spot on about Kaine using a procedural dodge. Also, Sen. Norment stood up and said, "I am a Republican, but..." Everyone knew what was coming next.


15 posted on 04/07/2005 10:49:10 AM PDT by Yuengling
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To: Corin Stormhands

OKAY - I need to stop being afraid of stepping on Virginian toes and start posting this stuff when I see it.........I saw that on Monday.

My biggest problem is half the time I don't know where to post stuff.........


16 posted on 04/07/2005 5:26:38 PM PDT by Gabz (John Paul II, pray for us.)
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To: Gabz

Post it over here to one of the existing threads. Or maybe I'll start a Monday campaign thread and we can encourage folks to post all their stuff there. Yeah, I'll do that...starting Monday.


17 posted on 04/07/2005 6:38:35 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (tagline temporarily unavailable)
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To: Corin Stormhands; Mudboy Slim; P8riot; Nick The Freeper; iceskater; Flora McDonald; Coop

Sorry for resurrecting the old thread folks - but I need some help - and I need it ASAP.........

I have searched and can not for the life of me find the anti-Potts website.....I need to know the URL by 6am........

HELP HELP HELP


18 posted on 04/22/2005 7:43:03 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Gabz

http://www.stoppotts.com/

Hope you're still around to get this.


19 posted on 04/22/2005 8:58:08 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Objects in this tagline are closer than they appear.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Thank you, my Friend - thank you.


20 posted on 04/23/2005 4:58:23 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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