Posted on 09/24/2003 1:12:25 PM PDT by bedolido
FORT PAYNE, Ala. (AP) -- A Cherokee County brother and sister have been charged with robbing their great-grandfather of $250 and leaving him for dead, police said.
DeKalb County Sheriff Cecil Reed said the siblings apparently wanted money to buy crack cocaine. Both are in DeKalb County Jail on first-degree robbery charges, Reed said.
Reed said Ernest C. Goza, 89, of the Mt. Vernon community in DeKalb County, heard a knock at his door at 4 a.m. on Sept. 14 and found his great-granddaughter, 27-year-old Jennifer Goza, standing at the doorstep.
Goza, who had been living alone and in poor health since his wife died, let her inside, Reed said. After a very short visit, she went outside and then came back in the house with her brother, Waylon Curt Goza, the sheriff said.
Reed said Waylon Goza began beating his great-grandfather with a wooden stick. Jennifer Goza then took Ernest Goza's wallet, and the two then left the house, Reed said.
"He was badly beaten, and it took all his strength to get up and go over to his son's house for help," Reed told the Fort Payne Times-Journal.
Ernest Goza's son took him to DeKalb Baptist hospital, and he later was transferred to Erlanger Hospital in Chattanooga, Tenn., Reed said. Goza spent three days in Erlanger's trauma unit and was unable to speak to investigators until Monday.
Copyright 2003 Associated Press. All rights reserved.
Which of Prohibition's failures has the War On Some Drugs not shared?
You won't find a 20 year coke, meth or smack user.
... and sense of willful disobedience of law by large swaths of the population.
We're spending $40 billion annually to fight drugs, and no end in sight. Disobedience doesn't get much more willful than that.
Of course not---after 20 years they'd be adept at not being found. That proves nothing about the substances themselves.
any would be long term cocaine, smack or meth users either rehabbed out
Or simply quit.
or died.
Nope---the figures I cited are based on currently living persons.
The extent of the corruption and sense of willful disobedience of law by large swaths of the population.
Provide evidence for your claims.
End every federal aspect of the WOD and spending drops all the way to $2.21 trillion. Let's keep things in perspective.
So it's possible that a drug on a chart like this addicts 5% of it's users, and kills the other 95%, right?
In order to tell the complete story, shouldn't you list the percentage killed directly or indirectly for each drug?
Also, the article concerned crack. Where's that? Where's crystal meth? PCP? Ecstasy? Why did you include tobacco -- it that a mind altering drug?
Your cut-and-paste posts are irrelevent on a thread like this, and shows how little respect you have for Chancellor Palpatine and the rest of us who take the time to read your prattle. Try to stick with the topic at hand.
I don't have that information. Since alcohol kills not a few people, it's far from clear that such data would bolster Chancellor Palpatine's case---but he or you are free to go find it. Since HE'S making the claim, no fact-finding burden lies on ME.
Also, the article concerned crack. Where's that? Where's crystal meth? PCP? Ecstasy? Why did you include tobacco
This was the data provided in the Institute of Medicine's 1999 report Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base.
Wouldn't this be relevent for this discussion. I mean if heroin, or crystal meth, or crack addicts 30% of the people who try it and kills (directly or indirectly) another 30%, I think that would be good to know when making a comparison to another drug such as alcohol.
Yes, alcohol kills, but imo mainly alcoholics, and as a percentage of all people who drink, I would think it to be small.
Of course, that's where your analogy breaks down, in that a social use for alcohol exists unlike the other mind altering drugs you listed.
Wouldn't this be relevent for this discussion.
Absolutely. If you find it, let us know.
a social use for alcohol exists unlike the other mind altering drugs you listed.
I question whether this is true---I have been present on a number of occasions when marijuana was smoked in a manner I would characterize as "social." And if you are right, that may well be a result of the War On Some Drugs; making a substance illegal motivates people to concentrate on getting a quick buzz rather than socializing.
Thing is... who wants a drunk parent, child or grandchild either? Alcohol is as much a destroyer of lives as any drug and moreso then some illegal drugs.
don't let your friends at madd hear you talking like that.
How did that effort turn out? How is the effort to outlaw other drugs turning out any differently?
My point is don't give alcohol a free ride just because it is legal and a staple in so many homes. Yes, many, many people are able to drink responsibly while others can't. Many, many people can smoke marijuana responsibly whether you, me or John Ashcroft likes it or not.
IMHO, of course.
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