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Great-Grandfather Robbed for Crack Money by great-grand kids
NW Cable News ^ | 09/24/03 | Staff Writer

Posted on 09/24/2003 1:12:25 PM PDT by bedolido

FORT PAYNE, Ala. (AP) -- A Cherokee County brother and sister have been charged with robbing their great-grandfather of $250 and leaving him for dead, police said.

DeKalb County Sheriff Cecil Reed said the siblings apparently wanted money to buy crack cocaine. Both are in DeKalb County Jail on first-degree robbery charges, Reed said.

Reed said Ernest C. Goza, 89, of the Mt. Vernon community in DeKalb County, heard a knock at his door at 4 a.m. on Sept. 14 and found his great-granddaughter, 27-year-old Jennifer Goza, standing at the doorstep.

Goza, who had been living alone and in poor health since his wife died, let her inside, Reed said. After a very short visit, she went outside and then came back in the house with her brother, Waylon Curt Goza, the sheriff said.

Reed said Waylon Goza began beating his great-grandfather with a wooden stick. Jennifer Goza then took Ernest Goza's wallet, and the two then left the house, Reed said.

"He was badly beaten, and it took all his strength to get up and go over to his son's house for help," Reed told the Fort Payne Times-Journal.

Ernest Goza's son took him to DeKalb Baptist hospital, and he later was transferred to Erlanger Hospital in Chattanooga, Tenn., Reed said. Goza spent three days in Erlanger's trauma unit and was unable to speak to investigators until Monday.

Copyright 2003 Associated Press. All rights reserved.


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To: MrLeRoy
Because they'd stolen from all their usual sources, needed an easy mark, and a stray thought about great granddad slithered across the foul surfaces of what passes for their brains?
21 posted on 09/24/2003 1:32:36 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (All eyes were on Ford Prefect. Some of them were on stalks.)
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To: MrLeRoy
What policy conclusions can we draw from that fact?

Uhh.....none. It was merely an arbitrary moralistic statement of opinion.

22 posted on 09/24/2003 1:32:38 PM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
(All eyes were on Ford Prefect. Some of them were on stalks.)

You're a HITCHHIKER'S GUIDE fan too?!?!? How could you be so cool, yet be wrong about so much politically? :-)

23 posted on 09/24/2003 1:33:39 PM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: Walkingfeather
What child would say that their parents were better parents when not smoking/drinking?

What parent would say their children were better children when not smoking/drinking?

What great-grandfather would say his great-grandchildren were better great-grandchildren when not smoking/drinking?

24 posted on 09/24/2003 1:34:16 PM PDT by xrp
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To: MrLeRoy
Then why did they wait till they did to rob him? This was the first expense they ever had?

I am sure they had to have lunch money at school. Unless they took their lunch every day. And never bought milk there. My daughter liked the chocolate milk at school. She used to call quarters "choklit milks" because she knew she could buy a 1/2 pint of chocolate milk with a quarter.

She never beat the crap out of her great grandparents, though.

25 posted on 09/24/2003 1:35:20 PM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Something tells me these skidmarks would have done the same to get quarters for the arcade (back in the early '80s).

Then why did they wait till they did to rob him?

Because they'd stolen from all their usual sources, needed an easy mark, and a stray thought about great granddad slithered across the foul surfaces of what passes for their brains?

So the fact that their first purchase after the robbery was crack---that was sheer coincidence?

26 posted on 09/24/2003 1:37:29 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: Skooz
My daughter liked the chocolate milk at school. She used to call quarters "choklit milks" because she knew she could buy a 1/2 pint of chocolate milk with a quarter.

She never beat the crap out of her great grandparents, though.

If she was jonesing for a legal chocolate milk, she could pay for it without robbing her grandparents.

27 posted on 09/24/2003 1:39:40 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: MrLeRoy
Oh, calm down, MrL. Is everything ok?

It's called "levity." Might want to try it sometime. Makes the day go better.

28 posted on 09/24/2003 1:41:41 PM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: Skooz
Did I ever tell you the one about the four nuns in line for confession?
29 posted on 09/24/2003 1:43:15 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: jmc813
The endless enigma of being a South Park Republican, LOL.

Were I to sum up my whole set of political beliefs, I'd list it as follows:

Rabidly pro-military
Rabidly in favor of exercising military and diplomatic strength to achieve US foreign policy goals
Generally pro-gun for the law abiding
In favor of a business-fostering economic and regulatory policy
Pro-development
Prefer reasonable, community consensus zoning and planning, same with environmental controls - not abandoning the field to developers, but not giving greenies much of a chance, either
Rationally tough on crime (and put marijuana in a different category than other drugs)
Prefer competent, efficient government that wisely budgets and spends, as opposed to taking a doctrinaire approach

If government does all these things well, then it doesn't have time or the inclination to muck about that much on overbroad laws on gays, affirmative action, what people do in their bedrooms, abortion, etc. And at the same time, everybody makes a good living.

;)

30 posted on 09/24/2003 1:47:07 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (All eyes were on Ford Prefect. Some of them were on stalks.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
put marijuana in a different category than other drugs

So alcohol would be in the same category as heroin and cocaine? Interesting.

31 posted on 09/24/2003 2:23:56 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: MrLeRoy
Nope - alcohol isn't in the same category as narcotics, DARE boy.

BTW, I'd shut that sucker down, given my druthers.

32 posted on 09/24/2003 2:25:53 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (All eyes were on Ford Prefect. Some of them were on stalks.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
alcohol isn't in the same category as narcotics

Why not? It's deadly, addictive, and mind-altering.

I'd shut that sucker down, given my druthers.

Why can you get your druthers for "narcotics" but not for alcohol?

33 posted on 09/24/2003 3:12:01 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: MrLeRoy
The quintessential DARE BS - the equivalence of alcohol and tobacco with meth, heroin and cocaine.
34 posted on 09/24/2003 3:16:02 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (All eyes were on Ford Prefect. Some of them were on stalks.)
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To: MrLeRoy
It's deadly, addictive, and mind-altering.

And people drank alcohol before they learned to write, and once they did learn to write, it appeared in everything from holy books to recipes. Its a traditional exception to regulatory laws due to its longstanding status with every society save certain religious radicals, and you won't be getting that changed.

35 posted on 09/24/2003 3:19:23 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (All eyes were on Ford Prefect. Some of them were on stalks.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
alcohol isn't in the same category as narcotics

Why not? It's deadly, addictive, and mind-altering.

The quintessential DARE BS

Provide evidence for your claim that it's BS.

36 posted on 09/24/2003 3:22:23 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Its a traditional exception to regulatory laws due to its longstanding status

Slavery used to have longstanding status, but that was changed. And alcohol's traditional exception to regulatory laws WAS changed once---have you heard how that turned out?

37 posted on 09/24/2003 3:24:49 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: MrLeRoy
Hmmm - lets see - I've been a social drinker for 20 some odd years now. I'm not addicted to alcohol, nor have I consumed so much as to have harmed myself physically. I haven't had an overwhelming urge to commit crimes or violence, either.

Find someone who has a 20 year history with cocaine, smack or methamphetamine, and tell me if they can say the same thing.

38 posted on 09/24/2003 3:27:18 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (All eyes were on Ford Prefect. Some of them were on stalks.)
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To: MrLeRoy
It was an absolute disaster because of the traditional standing of alcohol in most human societies - that and the widespread use of the substance and defiance of the law.

Narcotics don't enjoy the same widespread acceptance.

39 posted on 09/24/2003 3:29:17 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (All eyes were on Ford Prefect. Some of them were on stalks.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
I've been a social drinker for 20 some odd years now. I'm not addicted to alcohol
Drug Category Proportion of Users That Ever Became Dependent (%)
Tobacco 32
Alcohol 15
Marijuana (including hashish) 9
Cocaine 17
Heroin 23

- Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base (1999), Institute of Medicine

40 posted on 09/24/2003 3:31:59 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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