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These are Historic Times - Victor Hanson
National Review Online ^ | 9/20/03 | Victor Hanson

Posted on 09/20/2003 6:24:40 AM PDT by ohioWfan

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Interesting article.....
1 posted on 09/20/2003 6:24:41 AM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: A Citizen Reporter; ABG(anybody but Gore); Angelwood; arazitjh; b4its2late; backhoe; bamafour; ...
PING for an interesting read.
2 posted on 09/20/2003 6:26:41 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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PING!
3 posted on 09/20/2003 6:28:29 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: ohioWfan; Admin Moderator
Correction......I am NOT the author. Victor Hanson is.

Can that be corrected, Admin Moderator??

4 posted on 09/20/2003 6:29:36 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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Military history PING!
5 posted on 09/20/2003 6:31:39 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: ohioWfan
And just how do we know you aren't REALLY Victor D. Hanson?

:-)
6 posted on 09/20/2003 6:53:56 AM PDT by Valin (It's all an INSIDIOUS plot...and they're the worst kind!)
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To: ohioWfan
We are near the end of such a pivotal summer ourselves, the type that defines not just a presidency, but an entire nation for generations to come. After the spectacular victories in Afghanistan and Iraq, public ardor for the conflict is temporarily cooling.

I wonder if it really is? Or if it is just accepted as a fact of life, something that needs to be done. Out on the factopy floor (at least where I work) I've not noticed any "cooling".

7 posted on 09/20/2003 6:57:44 AM PDT by Valin (It's all an INSIDIOUS plot...and they're the worst kind!)
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Thanks, OhioWFan,
Another great article by Victor Davis Hanson. With him being local to the Fresno area, he is occasionally a guest on the local radio talk shows.
He is a brilliant historian.
8 posted on 09/20/2003 6:59:41 AM PDT by JustAmy (God Bless our Military, Past and Present. Thank a Veteran for your FReedoms!)
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By the dog days of August, Grant was no longer the hero of Forts Henry and Donelson or Vicksburg, but had become the "butcher" whose purported obstinacy and brutality had nearly ruined the Army of the Potomac — going through men and capital at an unsustainable rate.

Oddly enough, a book I read recently showed that Lee had the highest casualty rate of all Civil War generals - 14%. Grant was at slightly less than 12%. So what makes Grant, not Lee, the butcher?

9 posted on 09/20/2003 7:01:50 AM PDT by Restorer (Never let schooling interfere with your education.)
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Oh, RATS! My cover is gone! I've been found out......
10 posted on 09/20/2003 7:03:22 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: Valin
How do we know that you do not work for the ONION?
11 posted on 09/20/2003 7:10:16 AM PDT by Radix (That was just a little joke. I am going to work now.)
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To: Restorer
So what makes Grant, not Lee, the butcher?

That's easy! The New York Times of course!

Regards,

TS

12 posted on 09/20/2003 7:10:40 AM PDT by The Shrew (Radio Free Republic - The New NPR!)
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To: ohioWfan
Fixed ;)
13 posted on 09/20/2003 7:11:01 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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Thank you sir/ma'am!
14 posted on 09/20/2003 7:19:02 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: Radix
WORK? ME? Oh no no no! I tried it once and it's not for me. Oh 10-15 mins. a month, might be ok but anything more than that is a little excessive.
15 posted on 09/20/2003 7:19:25 AM PDT by Valin (It's all an INSIDIOUS plot...and they're the worst kind!)
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To: ohioWfan
Article is right on target!!!

redrock

16 posted on 09/20/2003 7:19:42 AM PDT by redrock (Say a Prayer tonight.....for we have 'boots on the ground'.....)
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To: Radix
It's actually the Village Voice....... ;o)
17 posted on 09/20/2003 7:19:51 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: Restorer
Yes, nice history lesson...But as the story correctly indicates, people have short memories especially when victory has been claimed...That war is over...Cleanup operations are in place and the excitement is gone till the bombs start falling someplace else...

As much as the author would like to keep us focused on the Iraq operation and G Bush's run for another term, I see the focus of Americans changing to Bush's new domestic policy of wide open borders for illegal aliens now coined "undocumented immigrants" and "guest workers"...

They ain't no guests of mine or the millions of American citizens losing their jobs to these criminals...These crooks are likely to elect the next president...That's where my focus is...

So I can understand why the author criticizes articles about toads in the swimming pool...And illegal aliens...He wants us to stay focused on that war and the upcoming election...Some of us aren't that blindly committed to G. Bush or the Party...
18 posted on 09/20/2003 7:20:09 AM PDT by Iscool
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Interesting........I've talked with my oil change guy, the pest control lady, a Jewish soccer mom friend, and the car wash proprietor recently......all 'average' folks, and they have all told me how very important it is that we keep at this War on Terror, and how much they respect President Bush for not backing down.

Maybe public support in real places (and not in polls) has NOT waned.....

19 posted on 09/20/2003 7:23:08 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: Iscool
You fascinate me.

How you could twist this article to make it a soap box for immigration policy is quite remarkable! And yet, I see you one-issue folks do it all the time. Amazing.

20 posted on 09/20/2003 7:25:38 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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