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Feel free to explain and elaborate your answers. I know this isn't a news story but I've seen similar posts by others, so I hope this is an acceptable forum for these questions. My sincerest apologies if it is not.
1 posted on 08/29/2003 12:56:26 PM PDT by FreeRepublicLoginName
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Hi honey, thanks for stopping by! Before I consider answering any of your questions I need your help. Pleaase explain how any of the answers you are looking for will help you to understand conservatism. Your questions are about feelings and not about facts, therefore the answers to your questions will not help you to understand conservatism as it is about facts and not feelings.

I am not trying to incite an arguement, only to understand your perspective.

2 posted on 08/29/2003 1:05:04 PM PDT by Great_Dame (praying for liberals, yes even that one.)
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Posting this in General Interest will not get you many replies.
3 posted on 08/29/2003 1:05:34 PM PDT by Feiny (Courtesy is not a sign of weakness.)
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To: FreeRepublicLoginName; xsmommy; Constitution Day; dubyaismypresident; Flurry
A post very closely resembling this was posted sometime in the last couple of weeks by someone using a different name.
6 posted on 08/29/2003 1:11:21 PM PDT by Argh
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To: FreeRepublicLoginName
Before I take a crack at some of these I have to ask. Are you a psychology or philosphy student?
7 posted on 08/29/2003 1:11:54 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (This is hughly series, please be spefic.)
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I'll be glad to answer the questions once you answer mine.

1. Do you suck you thumb?

2. Do you still wet the bed when you get scared?

3. Do you know who your father is?

I hope these questions don't offed you. The answers will help me better understand you.
10 posted on 08/29/2003 1:15:45 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Of course I like it here. I just may not like you.)
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OK I'll take your test. These answers are mine alone and may or may not be indicative of others.

1. Do you believe in God?

Yes

2. Do you believe Reason has limitations? If so, what are those limitations?

There are things that simply can't be explained and need to be taken on faith. The classic question of "Why are we here" comes to mind

3. Did your father use corporal punishment to enforce discipline? (Were you whipped, beaten, or spanked when you misbehaved?) If so, how frequently? (Once per year? Once per day?)

Spanked on rare occasion.

4. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "To be morally strong, you must be self-disciplined and self-denying. Otherwise, you are self-indulgent and such moral flabbiness ultimately helps the forces of evil."

Self discipline is a good discipline, wish I had more of it

5. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "Punishment is nurturing in that it teaches discipline, self-reliance and respect for authority."

Sure as long its corrective and not sadistic

6. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "Your poverty or your drug habit or your illegitimate children can be explained only as moral weakness and any discussion of social causes cannot be relevant."

Yup. There are people out there who can't read making money because they work hard and often.

7. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "The highest moral good is nurturance, including empathy, fairness and protection, but not painful punishment."

Nah, Life ain't fair.

8. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "Obedience comes out of love and respect for the parent, not out of fear, and strength is in the service of nurturance."

I'll go with it can come out of both and or either.

9. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "'Conservative tolerance for inequality' [as described by liberals], should, in fact, read intolerance for forced equality, and acceptance of the natural order of things in which inequality is generally the rule. "

Absolutely

10. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "The modern North American liberal is 'a keen advocate of change mainly to fulfill his/her ego needs -- needs for power, influence, self-advertisement, self-promotion and excitement.'"

Yes. Especially power.

11. Is it possible for a Liberal to be a good person? Is it possible for a Conservative to be a bad person?

Yes on both

12. Is morality (by which I mean right and wrong) absolute, as described in the bible, or is it relative?

Absolute

13. On a scale of 1 to 10, are you happy in life (generally speaking)?

7.5

14. Which statement do you agree with more: "people are generally good and trustworthy" or "people are generally bad and will try to harm you"?

I'll pass on this one

15. Is corporal punishment (discipline through whipping, beating, or spanking) an acceptable practice?

Spanking, yes. The others no. 16. On a scale of 1 to 10, do have anxiety (or fear) in your life (on a day-to-day basis)?

2

15 posted on 08/29/2003 1:21:20 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (This is hughly series, please be spefic.)
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I think if you spend time reading the posts on this forum you will find your answers. You will not find the answer using the questions you posted.

Are you absolutely sure you are a liberal?

Do you believe the following?

1. Standards for admissions to universities, fire departments, etc. should be lowered for people of color.

2. Bilingual education for children of immigrants, rather than immersion in English, is good for them and for America.

3. Murderers should never be put to death.

4. During the Cold War, America should have adopted a nuclear arms freeze.

5. Colleges should not allow ROTC programs.

5. It was wrong to wage war against Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War.

6. Poor parents should not be allowed to have vouchers to send their children to private schools.

7. It is good that trial lawyers and teachers unions are the two biggest contributors to the Democratic Party.

8. Marriage should be redefined from male-female to any two people.

9. A married couple should not have more of a right to adopt a child than two men or two women.

10. The Boy Scouts should not be allowed to use parks or any other public places and should be prohibited from using churches and synagogues for their meetings.

11. The present high tax rates are good.

12. Oil companies are evil.

13. The Israelis and Palestinians are morally equivalent.

14. The United Nations is a moral force for good in the world, and therefore America should be subservient to it and such international institutions as a world court.

15. It is good that colleges have dropped hundreds of men's sports teams in order to meet gender-based quotas.

16. No abortions can be labeled immoral.

17. Restaurants should be prohibited by law from allowing customers to choose between a smoking and a non-smoking section.

18. High schools should make condoms available to students and teach them how to use them.

19. Racial profiling for terrorists is wrong -- a white American grandmother should as likely be searched as a Saudi young male.

20. Racism and poverty -- not a lack of fathers and a crisis of values -- are the primary causes of violent crime in the inner city.

21. It is wrong and unconstitutional for students to be told, "God bless you" at their graduation.

22. No culture is morally superior to any other.

23. Guns should be banned.

24. Fidel Castro is a great leader & Cuba is a fantastic place to live.

25. Private Healthcare should be replaced by socialized medicine.
Those are all liberal positions. How many of them do you hold?


21 posted on 08/29/2003 1:25:41 PM PDT by Feiny (Courtesy is not a sign of weakness.)
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I answered yours, now please answer mine

1. Can the government create prosperity?

2. Do you have a right to someone elses earnings or labor?

3. What is the maximum tax rate that would be acceptable?

4. Do you drive an automobile

5. Are you rebelling from something?

6.Are you uncomfortable with public displays of religiousity?

7. Isn't better for children to be raised by two parents, a mother and a father?

23 posted on 08/29/2003 1:26:52 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (This is hughly series, please be spefic.)
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These aren't necessarily bad questions, but I have to wonder why you think these questions are at the heart of conservatism, or will help you to understand the conservative point of view.....

BTW, if you answer dubya's questions in his prior post and promise to answer mine as well in return, I will be glad to take your little exam.

Are you sure you're not one of those moron perfessors at Berkeley who studied conservatism and decided we're authoritarian pyschos who aren't nuanced?......they're right, of course.....

31 posted on 08/29/2003 2:05:36 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Whatever.............................................:-)
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Well what happened? Did we upset you by not getting you kicked off? Were you surprized that after a little joking and sarcasm some of us answered your little survey? Did we mess up your expectations? Speak up.
32 posted on 08/29/2003 2:36:26 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Of course I like it here. I just may not like you.)
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The answers to those questions will not tell you anything about conservatism.
61 posted on 08/29/2003 7:59:51 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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I'm game.

1. Do you believe in God?

Yes.

2. Do you believe Reason has limitations? If so, what are those limitations?

If by reason, you mean logic, then yes, it has been mathematically proven that logic has its limitations. Google Godel and his Incompleteness Theory.

3. Did your father use corporal punishment to enforce discipline? (Were you whipped, beaten, or spanked when you misbehaved?) If so, how frequently? (Once per year? Once per day?)

No.

4. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "To be morally strong, you must be self-disciplined and self-denying. Otherwise, you are self-indulgent and such moral flabbiness ultimately helps the forces of evil."

Depends on the individual circumstance.

5. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "Punishment is nurturing in that it teaches discipline, self-reliance and respect for authority."

Depends on the individual case.

6. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "Your poverty or your drug habit or your illegitimate children can be explained only as moral weakness and any discussion of social causes cannot be relevant."

Depends on the individual case.

7. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "The highest moral good is nurturance, including empathy, fairness and protection, but not painful punishment."

Depends how you define painful punishment. Is grounding painful?

8. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "Obedience comes out of love and respect for the parent, not out of fear, and strength is in the service of nurturance."

See #7

9. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "'Conservative tolerance for inequality' [as described by liberals], should, in fact, read intolerance for forced equality, and acceptance of the natural order of things in which inequality is generally the rule. "

Disagree with the question's premise -- there's no such thing as forced equality. Some pigs are always more equal than others.

10. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "The modern North American liberal is 'a keen advocate of change mainly to fulfill his/her ego needs -- needs for power, influence, self-advertisement, self-promotion and excitement.'"

Depends on the individual.

11. Is it possible for a Liberal to be a good person? Is it possible for a Conservative to be a bad person?

Of course.

12. Is morality (by which I mean right and wrong) absolute, as described in the bible, or is it relative?

A few rules are absolute, the rest are relative, IMHO.

13. On a scale of 1 to 10, are you happy in life (generally speaking)?

10.

14. Which statement do you agree with more: "people are generally good and trustworthy" or "people are generally bad and will try to harm you"?

Tend to agree with the first statement.

15. Is corporal punishment (discipline through whipping, beating, or spanking) an acceptable practice?

Non-physically harmful spanking, yes.

16. On a scale of 1 to 10, do have anxiety (or fear) in your life (on a day-to-day basis)?

I'm about a 2, with 1 being lowest.

65 posted on 08/29/2003 9:10:17 PM PDT by ellery
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I don't want to get bogged down in The Definition Game... I just want to understand.

Unfortunately,if you are a liberal,you are already bogged down in a definition game.This is one of the central points of disagreement today between liberals and conservatives,whether something has true meaning,or that it means "whatever you want it to mean".I remember this started with bad art,and has now worked it's way through the law.Your questions about religion and morality underscore your grappling with this question.You can't navigate without the north star.No matter what time of day it is,or what season of the year,the north star is always north.Without it,you are adrift.Such is the case with moral relativism.My dad once told me,"If you don't believe in God,pretend you do".We need a moral compass in our lives,or we will not be able to live together

As for conservative thought,you might try reading the US Constitution.It is very short(no pictures,though)and written in plain English,such that it requires no interpretation,even for those with the most modest education.I speak for myself when I say that conservative thought in this country centers on this document and it's supporting polemics,namely the federalist papers.

Of course,at the time,the founders considered themselves "liberals", derived from a word that means freedom,to distinguish themselves from the dogmatism of religion and nobility.Conservatives today seek to retain that form of government that has resulted in political and personal liberty never before seen in the history of mankind.If you want to read of what may have been considered the conservatives during the founding of the nation,you might want to read the anti-federalist papers,written by those who feared(and as it turns out,they were correct)a federal government which would usurp power to a degree undreamed of by the founders.

Even though they wrote in safeguards to provide protection for what the anti-federalists feared,the judiciary of today tells us that these simple english words need "interpretation" through the glass of one schooled in the law.Your moral relativism,of which you seem proud,is closely related to this disease of "legal positivism" that plagues our nation today.The conservative point of view is dismissed as "strict constructionism",although the 10th amendment makes us all "strict constructionists.Simply put,the constitution means what it says,not what some Freudian shrink thinks the founders might have had in mind when they wrote it.

Your questions pertain to human nature,and for that I would recommend Federalist #10,written by James Madison.It is,IMHO,the most concise treatise on human nature and man's attempts to exploit it's strenghts and restrict it's limitations that has ever been written.

A few of your comments betray your confusion.You say that you believe in "free" education.Very little of anything material is "free".Ask the teachers to give up their pay,the builders to give up theirs,as well as the book publishers,etc.,I think you get my point.

The leftists in the street think they have "rights" to free health care,housing,education,etc.What they seem to fail to realize is that for every "right" of this nature that they lay claim to,they are creating an obligation for someone else.Lets say that med school students decided it was just not worth it anymore,and we ran out of doctors.Where is your "right" to health care now?

Anyone who is twenty and not a liberal doesn't have a heart.Anyone who is thirty and isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain.

67 posted on 08/29/2003 9:37:12 PM PDT by kennyo
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So, one more post -- I have a couple of questions for you.
-Which would be a better or fairer form of government, our current representive republic, or a theoretical pure democracy, where every (or almost every) issue was decided by majority vote?

-Would you support taking a minor shortcut around the Constitutional process if it were for a very good cause?

-When the rights of the individual and the good of the group conflict, which should take precedence?

Thanks.
69 posted on 08/29/2003 9:59:56 PM PDT by ellery
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Feelings, NOTHING more then feelings....

Yeah, and are you still beating your wife?

What kind of moronic and emotional questions are those?

If you want to know what a conservative is and what conservatism is all about, try and ask about issues instead of feelings.

You will be clueless as long as you ask such silly emotional laden questions.

Just goes to show me that liberals are as indeed clueless about facts, history etc, as I am afraid they are.
73 posted on 08/30/2003 12:13:09 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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1 Yes

2 Yes, creativity is a necessary addition to it. For an example, see posts 20-24 here.

3 No

4 Disagree

5 Disagree

6 Agree

7 Disagree

8 No opinion – obedience is for dogs and I don’t know much about dogs.

9 No idea what is being asked – equal rights should be the ideal that we strive for

10 No idea – all I know is that modern “liberalism” is a force of evil, because it seeks to take my freedom.

11 Depends on your definitions

12 If there is a God, then morality is absolute. I am not arrogant enough to pretend that I know what his idea of morality is.

13 10 – but which end is happy and which unhappy?

14 first one

15 It is not the preferred method, IMO, but acceptable for the less intelligent people who resort to it

16 1 – see question 13

My questions to you:

1. Are you a Liberal as in a supporter of expanding government’s role in our daily lives, or in the older sense of the word, meaning the exact opposite?

2. Do you agree with this quote?

"The statesman who should attempt to direct private people in which manner they ought to employ their capitals, would not only load himself with a most unnecessary attention, but assume an authority which could safely be trusted to no council and senate whatever, and which would nowhere be so dangerous as in the hands of a man who had folly and presumption enough to fancy himself fit to exercise it."

78 posted on 08/30/2003 6:55:37 PM PDT by Voice in your head ("The secret of Happiness is Freedom, and the secret of Freedom, Courage." - Thucydides)
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Welcome to FreeRepublic.

While I don't have time to answer your questions I wanted to extend an open welcome to you to participate in other threads. A liberal who can debate and defend their views is "pretty rare in these here parts".

88 posted on 08/31/2003 3:45:33 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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The conservative viewpoint is:

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Or follow the golden rule...if it is broke....the government had something to do with it.

Suggested reading

Hayek: Road to Serfdom


109 posted on 09/01/2003 7:09:39 AM PDT by The Raven
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1. Do you believe in God?

Strongly.

2. Do you believe Reason has limitations? If so, what are those limitations?

Yes. Reason is limited by the data it works with.

3. Did your father use corporal punishment to enforce discipline? (Were you whipped, beaten, or spanked when you misbehaved?) If so, how frequently? (Once per year? Once per day?)

No. Never.

4. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "To be morally strong, you must be self-disciplined and self-denying. Otherwise, you are self-indulgent and such moral flabbiness ultimately helps the forces of evil."

There is some truth to the above. I suppose I agree.

5. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "Punishment is nurturing in that it teaches discipline, self-reliance and respect for authority."

I disagree.

6. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "Your poverty or your drug habit or your illegitimate children can be explained only as moral weakness and any discussion of social causes cannot be relevant."

I disagree. Poverty can be circumstantial (witness African nations), drug use is a medical issue, but illegitimate children is a moral choice. You can choose whether or not to use effective birth control.

7. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "The highest moral good is nurturance, including empathy, fairness and protection, but not painful punishment."

Please do not bring ham into this discussion. Stop oppressing my people.

8. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "Obedience comes out of love and respect for the parent, not out of fear, and strength is in the service of nurturance."

It was dark. Things moved fast. I don't know who was ultimately responsible, but I always suspected the dwarf. There was something in his sinister grin that unnerved me.

9. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "'Conservative tolerance for inequality' [as described by liberals], should, in fact, read intolerance for forced equality, and acceptance of the natural order of things in which inequality is generally the rule. "

I like cheese. I really really like cheese.

10. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "The modern North American liberal is 'a keen advocate of change mainly to fulfill his/her ego needs -- needs for power, influence, self-advertisement, self-promotion and excitement.'"

I would amend the statement. The liberal (worldwide) seeks control and power at the expense of liberty. I suppose I agree.

11. Is it possible for a Liberal to be a good person? Is it possible for a Conservative to be a bad person?

Of course.

12. Is morality (by which I mean right and wrong) absolute, as described in the bible, or is it relative?

It is absolute.

13. On a scale of 1 to 10, are you happy in life (generally speaking)?

Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

14. Which statement do you agree with more: "people are generally good and trustworthy" or "people are generally bad and will try to harm you"?

There are factors of both in all people.

15. Is corporal punishment (discipline through whipping, beating, or spanking) an acceptable practice?

I suppose.

16. On a scale of 1 to 10, do have anxiety (or fear) in your life (on a day-to-day basis)?

Depends on the arena. Physical threats: 0. Economic threats: 7. Threats to freedom: 8. Threats of the tiny monkeys buzzing around my head in tiny airplanes trying to shoot down the King Kong climbing up my right ear: 120000.

116 posted on 09/01/2003 8:29:25 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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OK, I'll jump in.

Briefly, I'd say that liberalism* tends to try to remake people and institutions to fit an pre-defined supposed "ideal", where as conservatism tends to let individuals determine their own circumstance.

*Assuming the word liberal to have the connotations in current political parlance and usage, and not the more traditional definition, which seems to be almost the opposite.
138 posted on 09/01/2003 9:22:09 AM PDT by P.O.E.
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