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The Guild 8-23-2003 Hamas Calls Bush 'Islam's Biggest Enemy'
WashPost ^
| 8-23-2003
| The Associated Press
Posted on 08/23/2003 9:41:39 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - A leader of the Palestinian militant group Hamas on Saturday called President Bush an enemy of Islam because the U.S. government froze the assets of Hamas leaders in response to a suicide bombing of a bus in Jerusalem.
Speaking to Dubai-based Al-Arabiya TV, Abdel Aziz Rantisi called the action "a theft of Muslim money by the Americans" and said the frozen money doesn't belong to Hamas.
"Hamas does not have any money in the U.S., Europe or even in the Arab states. President Bush has become Islam's biggest enemy," Rantisi said in the interview.
On Friday, the United States froze the assets of six Hamas leaders, including Rantisi, an aide to Sheik Ahmed Yassin, the group's spiritual leader. The United States also froze the assets of five European-based organizations that it said raise money for the radical Palestinian group.
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To: lodwick
This is an ex-cel-lent! article. I don't know anything about the blogger JoeUser. But he hit the nail on the head with this one:
Why should we care whether Europe "likes" us?
http://www.joeuser.com/index.asp?aid=75
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posted on
08/28/2003 5:20:11 PM PDT
by
Timeout
To: Timeout
I had a conversation with a friend a few days ago concerning one of Bustamante's more bizarre views
She heard he believes we should give California and Texas back to the Mexicans, because we esentially stole those states. I don't have the source for his goofy remarks, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out they're true.
The man is a nut.
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posted on
08/28/2003 5:22:01 PM PDT
by
pubmom
To: pubmom
esentially= essentially
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posted on
08/28/2003 5:23:53 PM PDT
by
pubmom
To: pubmom
Bustamante is or was a member of a radical "chicano/mestizo/chicano/chimichanga" (whatever, even though I understand his heritage is Spanish, not Mexican) group that insisted that most of western U.S. should be "returned" to Mexico. I say, let them have Oregon.
To: Timeout
Speaking of Europe and our personal favorites, the French:
My father lives in France and is ill. Thus has to go hospital for a week or so. A month back he did this before. He had the op and was left attached to a bank of monitors alongside 51 other patients. The nurses spend their time in a control room watching the screens for flatlines.
After couple of days recuperation he asked if he could use the shower, no problem came the response from the cardiologist.
Consternation in the control room. There are 2 baths and one shower for 51 people. However no patient had ever asked to wash before, so the three rooms were store cupboards. After half an hours work the shower was freed for use. Great thought father, human again.
When he asked the next day his request was greeted with a polite but stone faced refusal, the storeroom was back in operation. So this morning I went to the shop in a little town called Frevent to get him supplies for the next weeks sojourn under the knife. And was startled to find Veet. Veet is a deodorant that proudly states VEET DEODORANT - LASTS THREE DAYS.
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To: Timeout
Very interesting article! The French just have no scruples, do they? When Mr. M and I toured the Caen "peace" museum last year, the way France just rolled over in 1940 hit me like a ton of bricks. I know I commented to Mr. M on how amazing it was that an entire nation demonstrated such weaselness overnight. I'm sure that wasn't the intent of the museum's designers (I've mentioned its anti-U.S. bias elsewhere), but it's kind of difficult to disguise France's perfidy during WWII, in Vietnam and today.
I just caught a few minutes of Colin Quinn's show on Comedy Central, where the comedians were talking about the way cigarettes have been vilified and aren't shown on TV anymore. Richard Jeny (sp?) said he was very pro-cigarette. "After all, anything that's killed millions of French people can't be all bad!"
In other news, it seems that some of the terrorists recently arrested in Canada were in the U.S. on 9/11/01:
In Ottawa, an immigration spokeswoman refused to say if U.S. authorities are participating in the probe, but noted that Canada "works together with our international partners" on shared immigration concerns. At a detention hearing last Wednesday, a government lawyer went so far as to note that some of the men were on American soil at the time of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in New York City and Washington, D.C., according to a hearing transcript.
The lawyer, identified as S. MacKay, said at a hearing for Jahan Zaib Sawhney that a raid on a business college shell that sold false documents turned up letters that accommodated student travel to and from the United States. "Now, the significance of that is that Sept. 11 occurred pretty much in the middle of the time period for which these people are thought to have been in the United States," he said. canada.com
To: pubmom
More on Cruz Bustamante's ties to a racist Mexican group:
LOS ANGELES California Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante, the grandson of Mexican immigrants who counts improving race relations among his biggest pursuits, refused Thursday to renounce his past ties to a little-known Hispanic organization considered by critics to be as racist as the Ku Klux Klan.
Instead, Bustamante, who is running to be governor of California, praised the Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan, or MEChA (search), and said he still supports it.
"The students who are in MEChA today are just like the students when I was there, pretty much they are trying to get an education," Bustamante said during a press conference in which the first three questions related to his ties to the group.
"I think the actuality of what takes place in those organizations is to provide student leadership. For me, and many, many others, we were running for student government. That's how I got here today."
MEChA has used violence in the past to make its case. At a July 4 celebration in 1996, members of the group, who call themselves Mechistas, were videotaped attacking black and white Americans protesting illegal immigration. In 1993, students at UCLA caused $500,000 worth of damage during protests to demand a Chicano studies department. MEChA has also been associated with anti-Semitic groups like Nation of Aztlan.
MEChA's motto is "for the race, everything. For those outside the race, nothing." Critics say affiliation with that kind of group could spell political ruin for a white candidate and are upset that little attention has been paid to Bustamante's relationship with the group. He belonged to MEChA while attending Fresno State University in the 1970s.
"Whatever you did in your youth, it's what you did at the time. You can't disassociate from the past," said Manuel Olgin, a former MEChA member and now a counselor at the university. "Now if you're still plugged in and doing stuff, that's another question. But this is immaterial to me."
"Joining MEChA was a rite of passage just like if a black student joined a black student union. And if you didn't join, you weren't Chicano. The question is why hasn't he renounced it now. It is a racist organization," said radio talk show host Larry Elder.
MEChA has as many as 300 chapters in universities across the U.S., with 100 of them in California alone.
According to the organization's constitution, "Chicanas and Chicanos must ... politicize our Raza [race] ... and struggle for the self-determination of the Chicano people for the purpose of liberating Aztlan."
Aztlan (search) is the area that is currently the southwest United States, but Mechistas claim Aztlan is their homeland to be returned to Mexico and the group says white Americans who currently govern these areas must be removed from power.
Some of Bustamante's contemporaries from the group say he was a moderate, not a militant member of the organization.
"His involvement in MEChA was not in a leadership position. His involvement was in being a member and doing what he could. He was involved at a higher level and that level was in student government," said Tony Garduque, a former MEChA member, who said the group did a lot of good things.
But that explanation doesn't wash with critics.
"What is a moderate member of a racist organization? 'I was a moderate member of the Klan.' Imagine if a Republican made that statement," Elder said.
"I think he should answer for his membership in the group," said syndicated columnist Michelle Malkin. "I think he needs to explain why he has not disassociated himself from a group that is violent, which has caused riots on campus and which has preached anti-Semitism and anti-black ideology."
Bustamante left Fresno State early and instead took correspondence classes. He was honored by the school last year at age 49 during a Hispanic-only graduation ceremony.
Though he defines his "racial ethnic agenda" as one that provides good schools, good jobs and safe neighborhoods, Bustamante has been questioned before about racism. In 2001, he had to apologize profusely to state African-American leaders after mistakenly referring to a black union using the N-word. Bustamante called it a slip of the tongue, but audience members attending the Black History celebration were stunned at the reference, for which he did not apologize until the end of his 10-minute speech.
Racist or otherwise, critics say Bustamante's membership in MEChA is certainly more relevant than Arnold Schwarzenegger's father being a Nazi. Schwarzenegger uncovered that truth when he initiated his own search in 1990 of his father's past with the help of the Simon Wiesenthal Center.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,95871,00.html
To: Timeout
Good catch - thank you!
Way to go JoeUser.
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posted on
08/28/2003 6:42:30 PM PDT
by
lodwick
To: mountaineer
God help us all.
We are augering in to the end.
Cheers guys - have a ball with it all.
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posted on
08/28/2003 6:48:32 PM PDT
by
lodwick
To: lodwick
Am I reading this article right? I may not follow every single development in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, but I thought I was relatively well-informed on it.
But I was surprised to read here that Palestinians have been firing missiles into Israeli towns. Had any of you heard about this?
NY Post:
http://nypost.com/commentary/4480.htm
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posted on
08/29/2003 3:39:41 AM PDT
by
Timeout
To: lodwick
It seems Gray and Cruz spent yesterday wooing the Indian tribes with gambling casinos. In return for their generous political contributions they are being promised seats on the state gambling commision.
Question: If Indian reservations are not subject to federal or state gambling regulations because they are "sovereign nations", why are they allowed to contribute to political campaigns? I thought "foreign" contributions were prohibited.
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posted on
08/29/2003 3:58:56 AM PDT
by
Timeout
And why are they allowed to vote?
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posted on
08/29/2003 4:00:40 AM PDT
by
Timeout
To: Timeout
Iowa's Native Americans donate to political campaigns and they vote. I cannot explain the "Sovreign Nation" thing except I do know they are subject ot 'our' laws. I suppose that's why they are allowed to contribute to campaigns, etc.
To: Timeout
"Attention, a collaborator may be standing behind you!" reads one warning on a Hamas site. "The Zionist enemy has ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^succeeded in killing many of our brothers, but we need every one of them." The IDF will be assisting the palis in getting their virgins shortly.
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posted on
08/29/2003 5:32:28 AM PDT
by
lodwick
To: Iowa Granny
![](http://www.iowapresidentialwatch.com/images/cartoons/BakingIowaLg2.JPG)
What a dick...
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posted on
08/29/2003 5:35:04 AM PDT
by
lodwick
To: lodwick
"The Dick" is holding a contest to find the best pie in Iowa. It's only a stunt to meet little old ladies. A gal called in to a call in show to say she was entering a Mrs. Smith's.
To: Iowa Granny; *The GUILD
A HORSE, A CHICKEN, AND A HARLEY
On the farm lived a chicken and a horse, both of whom loved to
play together. One day, the two were playing when the horse fell
into a bog and began to sink.
Scared for his life, the horse whinnied for the chicken to go
get the farmer for help! Off the chicken ran, back to the farm. Arriving at the farm, he searched and searched for the farmer,
but to no avail, for he had gone to town with the only tractor.
Running around, the desperate chicken spied the farmer's brand
new Harley. Finding the keys in the ignition, the chicken sped
off with a length of rope hoping he still had time to save his friend's life.
Back at the bog, the horse was surprised, but happy, to see the chicken arrive on the shiny Harley, and he managed to get a hold
of the loop of rope the chicken tossed to him. After tying the
other end to the rear fender of the farmer's bike, the chicken
then drove slowly forward and, with the aid of the powerful bike, rescued the horse!
Happy and proud, the chicken rode the Harley back to the farmhouse, and the farmer was none the wiser when he returned.
The friendship between the two animals was cemented: best buddies, best pals.
A few weeks later, the chicken fell into a mud pit, and soon, he
too, began to sink and cried out to the horse to save his life!
The horse thought a moment, walked over, and straddled the large puddle.
Looking underneath, he told the chicken to grab his "thing" and he would then lift him out of the pit. The chicken got a good grip, and the horse pulled him up and out, saving his life.
The moral of the story?
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When you're hung like a horse, you don't need a Harley to pick up chicks.
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posted on
08/29/2003 5:56:12 AM PDT
by
lodwick
To: *The GUILD; Dick
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posted on
08/29/2003 5:58:30 AM PDT
by
lodwick
To: lodwick; *GUILD
Good morning everyone. Just stopping by to say hello, and to wish eveyone a wonderful 3 day week end. I'm doing fine. I had surgery on my left foot a week ago and have to use cruthes. My computer is upstairs , so it's hard to get up here, LOL.
Forgive me if this was already discussed, but did you see the Hillary interview with Matt "what's his name" on the morning show? This morning they had an "Exclusive" interview with John F Kerry and his wife Teresa. So much for fair and blanced, LOL.
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posted on
08/29/2003 6:13:37 AM PDT
by
Teacup
(Have you hugged your doggies today?)
To: Teacup
"cruthes"...."fair and blanced"
Are you typing with that left foot? LOL!
Seriously, though, I did not know you'd had surgery. Hope all is well....hobbling around is no fun, especially in the summer heat. Take it easy this weekend.
We're having a family "Seafood Blowout" Saturday night. I'm boiling 10 lbs of large shrimp ($3 a pound, with heads removed!). Sunday we're taking the boats to an island near Gulf Shores to spend the day doing absolutely nothing...ahhhh.
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posted on
08/29/2003 6:24:14 AM PDT
by
Timeout
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