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Two more rumors bite the dust (Ride home and torn clothing just not true, sources say)
The Vail Daily ^ | 8/4/03 | The Vail Daily

Posted on 08/05/2003 10:20:49 AM PDT by Smogger

Two more reports regarding the Kobe Bryant case circulating among part of the national media were debunked Monday.

Media reports that the 19-year-old woman who Bryant allegedly assaulted received a ride home is not the case, sources said Monday. Reports that her clothing was torn are also untrue, sources also.

Sources told the Daily that the alleged victim managed to get herself home by 11:50 p.m., June 30, after ending the shift at the Lodge at Cordillera at around 11:10 p.m.

They also said that while her clothing was disheveled and showed signs that something had occurred, it wasn't torn or ripped, as some reports indicated.

"Some of the reports made it sound like something out of a bad movie," said one source. "It wasn't like that."

The reports are part of a larger set of rumors and gossip that have been circulating across the country about the case. Among them:

- That the alleged victim was in the room two hours. It was only about 20 minutes.

- When she came down, she was hysterical. She was not. Sources said she was in a stupor and a state of shock.

- A few days before the incident, the alleged victim had accused another hotel worker of sexual harassment, getting him fired. Not true, said the man who was terminated. It was not the alleged victim.

Cameras in court

Eagle County Judge Fred Gannett ruled that not only is Bryant required to appear at 4 p.m. Wednesday, he also ruled Monday that there will be cameras in the courtroom.

Gannett denied a motion by Bryant's attorneys asking Gannett to reconsider an earlier order allowing one video camera and one still camera in the courtroom while Bryant is advised of the charges against him, and also advised of his rights.


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To: #3Fan
Yes, your every post demonstrates how much wittier you are than everyone else. /sarcasm

Well, I wanted the position of Thread A$$HOLE, but you had that one already locked up.

401 posted on 08/05/2003 10:45:41 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: nyconse
Now sinkspur, when have I ever been rude towards you or other Kobe posters? I respect your opinion, and I don't call you names.

I never said you were rude, nor did I call you names.

But you're a "KB is guilty" poster, and don't pretend to be otherwise.

402 posted on 08/05/2003 10:46:24 PM PDT by sinkspur ("You want pajamas? Stripes, dots, or animals." Oscar Madison in THE ODD COUPLE.)
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To: sinkspur
You take three impartial observers and set them against two die-hard "KB is guilty" opinionators.

Impartial observers? LOL Howlin asked nyconse earlier how she will feel when it's found the girl is lying. You call that impartial? You call posting that the girl may have made this up impartial? You think Iwo Jima is impartial? LOL And you never debate the Kobe supporters, so you're not impartial either.

The Westerfield effect requires that an "us-vs-them" mentality be maintained at all times, and you're fostering that here.

Earlier you said it was emotionalism. I guess Howlin took that out of your arsenal when she personally attacked nyconse. lol

403 posted on 08/05/2003 10:47:14 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Howlin
tried to commit suicide twice within 3 months,

The UNC incident supposedly happened in February so that would make it at least four months. If you are going to continually harangue about other people who lie about the facts, the least you could do is keep your own facts straight.

404 posted on 08/05/2003 10:48:25 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (http://righteverytime.blogspot.com - home to Tall_Texan's new column.)
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To: rolling_stone
what is relevant concerning her mental history?

Oh, nothing much; just her entire outlook on life and how she perceives things that happen around her -- and how she reacts to situations she finds herself in.

For instance, we now know that when her boy friend breaks up with her and starts dating somebody else, her reaction is to try to kill herself; twice.

405 posted on 08/05/2003 10:48:26 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: sinkspur
I'd have to see what nyconse said. She's been a bit wired over this whole thing.

Smogger and Howlin are wired, I don't think nyconse is. You are too when you assumed people are going to leave the forum. That was pretty rude.

406 posted on 08/05/2003 10:49:45 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
Howlin asked nyconse earlier how she will feel when it's found the girl is lying. You call that impartial?

That proves how biased YOU are; she asked me first how I would feel if the trial proves him guilty.

See, you don't SEE the other side or even acknowledge it.

407 posted on 08/05/2003 10:50:02 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: onyx
You are hopelessly obtuse.

Better than being acute.

408 posted on 08/05/2003 10:50:41 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Tall_Texan
If you are going to continually harangue about other people who lie about the facts, the least you could do is keep your own facts straight.

As if that makes a big damn deal. The end of February to the end of May IS 3 months.

How many times have YOU tried to kill yourself in the last FOUR MONTHS????????

409 posted on 08/05/2003 10:51:59 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin; sinkspur
Well, I wanted the position of Thread A$$HOLE, but you had that one already locked up.

Hey sinkspur, who'd you say was wired? lol

410 posted on 08/05/2003 10:53:31 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: sinkspur
If the girl is injured, told the bellhop she was raped and her clothes are ripped/in disarray, then I think Kobe is guilty. However, I don't know that to be true. I have only seen media reports from un-named sources.
411 posted on 08/05/2003 10:54:45 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: #3Fan
You are too when you assumed people are going to leave the forum.

He never said LEAVE the forum; he said LEAVE these threads. You all aren't that important.

Actually, I believe people just stopped posting on these threads because they got tired of you all asking the same questions over and over and -- even when given an answer -- asking it again.

I'm sure you'd all be pleased if nobody came on these threads to point out any statement, even the rumors, that MIGHT shine some light on this case that doesn't trash Kobe Bryant. Then you could all just sit around and talk about how moral you all are and especially how non- judgmental and fair you are.

412 posted on 08/05/2003 10:54:56 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: sinkspur
But you're a "KB is guilty" poster, and don't pretend to be otherwise.

You think he's guilty also, you said so. Why are you attacking others who think he's guilty?

413 posted on 08/05/2003 10:55:16 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: nyconse
Do you have retention problems?

You have been told at least 20 times on this thread that her clothes were NOT torn and yet here you go again, saying they were ripped.

I have to tell you I am sitting here waiting for your lucid explanation on why they just might have been "ripped," and not "torn," as ripped and torn are two different words, right?
414 posted on 08/05/2003 10:56:21 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: nyconse
However, I don't know that to be true.

Well, that's an understatement!

415 posted on 08/05/2003 10:56:37 PM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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To: Howlin
That proves how biased YOU are; she asked me first how I would feel if the trial proves him guilty. See, you don't SEE the other side or even acknowledge it.

You said "when", not "if". That's not impartial.

416 posted on 08/05/2003 10:57:21 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
You really are one of the most dishonest, fraudulent poster I've ever seen on FR.
417 posted on 08/05/2003 10:59:00 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I'll second that, and why waste any more time on her?
418 posted on 08/05/2003 11:00:57 PM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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To: Howlin
Absolutely wrong.

All because you say so? What about the mental state of murder victims? If they tried to kill themselves 30 days before, were they just making up being murder? Or maybe they were "asking for it".

I can see myconse is not the only person on this thread that cannot answer a point-blank question.

419 posted on 08/05/2003 11:01:40 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (http://righteverytime.blogspot.com - home to Tall_Texan's new column.)
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To: Howlin
"...while her clothing was disheveled and showed signs that something had occurred, it wasn't torn or ripped, as some reports indicated".

Please note I said ripped/in a state of disarrary (ie dishelveled) Now you are assuming one report is the gospel truth. Her clothes may indeed have been ripped if this one report is not correct. I am not ruling anything out. I will-of course-ignore yet another personal attack.
420 posted on 08/05/2003 11:02:30 PM PDT by nyconse
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