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Two more rumors bite the dust (Ride home and torn clothing just not true, sources say)
The Vail Daily ^ | 8/4/03 | The Vail Daily

Posted on 08/05/2003 10:20:49 AM PDT by Smogger

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To: redlipstick
Good article. I still say that it bears watching if Bryant has control issues. Uday could have any woman he wanted yet he preferred rape. Control.
201 posted on 08/05/2003 5:31:50 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Iwo Jima
But if there is evidence as to all three (attended the party and said these things, attended the party and did not say these things, and did not attend the party), then it all comes in and the jury (I predict) says to heck with it, we're not sending anyone to prison on screwed up testimony like this. The muddier the water, the better for the defense because the prosecution has the burden of proof.

From what I have read the alleged response regarding Kobe's anatomy resulted from direct questions. The defense will have fun introducing these witnesses and their specific questions of the victim. The victim can deny she answered, other people at the party can deny she said that. You are not left with a muddy mess, you are left with a defense witness who allegedly asked crude questions of the victim. It seems to me that only illicits sympathy for the accuser.

202 posted on 08/05/2003 6:19:01 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: redlipstick
Thank you for posting that.
203 posted on 08/05/2003 6:20:29 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Smogger
Two more reports regarding the Kobe Bryant case circulating among part of the national media were debunked Monday.

"Rumors" that were stated as FACT by Rita Cosby Saturday night during her show during a FOX NEWS ALERT.......she breathlessly reported those two facts, couldn't get it on the air quicky enough.

She is such a fool. Anybody who believes another word she says is a fool.

204 posted on 08/05/2003 6:22:46 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Bikers4Bush
Yes, imagine this.
205 posted on 08/05/2003 6:23:57 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: cyncooper
The Supreme court document was very difficult. Several stations I watch were not sure what was what. Granted she should have not spoken until she was sure, but that was three years ago. She has been correct since as far as I know.
206 posted on 08/05/2003 6:25:21 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: redlipstick
Great article and quite true-thanks for posting it.
207 posted on 08/05/2003 6:26:21 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: nyconse
"sources?"-why should I believe these more than what Rita reported? She supposedly got it from a witness (bellboy). Also, dishelved, stupor?-still doesn't look good for Kobe. I don't see how this bolsters Kobe's case at all. I guess it's going to have to be the race card-doesn't look like the Kobe team has much else.

Tell me again how I'm only interested in anything that defends Kobe Bryant...........ROFLMAO.

208 posted on 08/05/2003 6:26:21 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
The article does not change the fact that the girl was upset whether her clothes were in disarray or torn-no difference. Stupor?-not helpful to Kobe. Show me some evidence that supports Kobe, and I will change my mind in a New York second-haven't seen any so far. Also, I don't see why Rita is less credible than un-named sources. Hannity seemed to think the evidence presented by Rita was credible: said so on his show.
209 posted on 08/05/2003 6:31:05 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: Dolphy
I disagree that the scenario which you speak of would elicit any sympathy for the accuser. As a juror, I would have no sympathy for such a person. If she is responsible enough to have a person sent to prison on her testimony, then she cannot be so befuddled that she responds to such a question simply because she was asked.

According to Evancho, this topic came up after she was bragging about the incident. It matters not one whit to me that a "defense witness" (which of course he only became because he has information adverse to the prosecution)asked "crude questions." It is the answers that matter, and these answers were worse than crude. They are credibility-destroying.
210 posted on 08/05/2003 6:36:32 PM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: cyncooper
Your post is disingenuous at best.

That post was on MONDAY, when, in fact, Rita Cosby -- who IS the one who said that the clothes were TORN and that he gave her a RIDE home -- made her big announcement at 10 PM EDT last Saturday night. And she did say that the girl DISCUSSED it with the bellman on the way home.

Obviously the story had been cleaned up by the time that article you posted was posted.
211 posted on 08/05/2003 6:37:57 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Your post is disingenuous at best.

It is not.

The ESPN report is independent and shows the bellhop testimony is most likely going to be heard, while Smogger seemed to think the bellhop story had been totally discredited.

I certainly was not attempting to defend Cosby, as you seem to think.

212 posted on 08/05/2003 6:41:19 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Republic
if a witness is lying, that is beyond her control.

It is her JOB to verify the things she reports are FACTS.

213 posted on 08/05/2003 6:41:54 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Motherbear
Bump!
214 posted on 08/05/2003 6:47:06 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Hildy
It flashes in front of my face every single time I see her on Fox now.
215 posted on 08/05/2003 6:47:39 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Dolphy
you are left with a defense witness who allegedly asked crude questions of the victim

And a "victim" who answered.

216 posted on 08/05/2003 6:50:09 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Randy Wyrick's report on Monday's Today show wasn't based on Rita's report.
The ESPN article wasn't based on Rita's report.
217 posted on 08/05/2003 6:50:45 PM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: nyconse
She has been correct since as far as I know.

She was incorrect last Saturday night at 10 P.M. EDT.

218 posted on 08/05/2003 6:50:58 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: nyconse
For all you know, the "stupor" description will be retracted next.
219 posted on 08/05/2003 6:51:46 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
About what? Kobe I suppose. Howlin when it comes out in court that he really did hurt, humiliate and rape this girl, how will you feel?
220 posted on 08/05/2003 6:52:46 PM PDT by nyconse
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