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CBS ^ | 7-9-2003 | Me

Posted on 07/09/2003 8:49:12 PM PDT by jmc813

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To: PoisedWoman
That could be true... but, Justin and Allison did have a blowout where she accused him of being the "power" behind Dana...

I'm not watching the feeds, so the only information I have is the clever editing done by CBS. I believe CBS distorts the reality of the house for the sake of "drama" and ratings.

That is the only reaction I can have to Allison and Dana's hugs and good words to each other after the HOH contest...that they don't "hate" each other as the show would lead us to believe.

I don't know about you, but if someone trashed me as relentlessly as those two trashed each other, said all sorts of nasty things about me... the last thing I would want to do is hug them.

121 posted on 08/01/2003 6:30:08 AM PDT by carton253 (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: carton253
I noticed the hug also, but I felt it was very forced. I think they both hugged so they would appear to be good sports. Did you see the daggers in Dana's eyes when she realized Alison won?

I don't think I have EVER picked the correct person that will be booted out. Maybe if I watched the feeds, I could pick better, but the way they edit the show, it is hard to know what is really happening.

As the saying goes, I expect the unexpected.
122 posted on 08/01/2003 11:05:23 AM PDT by usflagwaver
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To: usflagwaver
I noticed the daggers in Dana's eyes too. That's what surprised me about the warmness of the hug. (Isn't it funny how two people can watch the same thing and have two different interpretations....)

If I were Allison or Dana, when one acted like they were going to hug me, I would have put out the "let's not" vibe...

It will be interesting to see what happens tonight. I think the whole show is fascinating to watch.

123 posted on 08/01/2003 11:10:42 AM PDT by carton253 (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: carton253; jmc813
Nominatioon of Jun was a big surprise. I'm glad I resisted reading the spoiler! Now Alison has several other people irritated. She may have made a smart move, but it could backfire, with the exes banding together to vote out Jun. Justin, Robert, Jee would far prefer to keep Dana in the house since she's already knifed the original alliance in the back. Jack, Ericka, Nathan will vote for Dana to go. Alison will cast deciding vote. (Am I forgetting anyone?) Or the veto may throw off the vote. Big fun in Brotherland!
124 posted on 08/02/2003 12:05:51 AM PDT by PoisedWoman (Fed up with the CORRUPT liberal media)
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To: PoisedWoman
Yeah, I think that Allison made a big mistake. Once on Wednesday and again on Friday, Allison said that Justin was the power behind Dana. Why she didn't nominate him, I don't know.

She left the three exes intact... that was a huge mistake.

125 posted on 08/04/2003 4:43:27 AM PDT by carton253 (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: carton253
i missed the show Friday... can someone fill me in???
126 posted on 08/04/2003 7:56:20 AM PDT by sweet_diane (Philippians 4:12-13)
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To: sweet_diane
Not much happened. If you go to cbs.com and look under big brother, you can get a summary.

Mostly, Allison nominated Jun and Dana for eviction... the exes are gleeful and the alliance can't believe she did it because it was a huge mistake that will bite the alliance in the butt later on.

127 posted on 08/04/2003 9:35:59 AM PDT by carton253 (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: carton253
Is the next show on Monday? Tuesday?

Alison may think she put up Jun so everyone will vote for Dana. But the veto becomes super important in this case....what if the ex-alliance wins it and takes Dana off the block? Perish the thought! Would Alison put up Justin then?
128 posted on 08/04/2003 11:28:36 AM PDT by PoisedWoman (Fed up with the CORRUPT liberal media)
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To: PoisedWoman
Next show is Tuesday night...
129 posted on 08/04/2003 11:30:43 AM PDT by carton253 (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: Stentor; Luis Gonzalez; Peace4EarthNow; Chancellor Palpatine; krb; carton253; Dengar01; ...
Hello Big Brother people. I'm back from my mini-vacation. Did everyone cry themselves to sleep because they missed me so much? Didn't think so. Anyhow, my trip was an eventful and exhausting one, but I'd do it again in a second. Phish has once again re-affirmed my belief that they are the best rock band going today. Over the course of the weekend, they played over nine hours of music, all of which I loved. Back to business....

Robert won the Power of Veto and elected not to use it. Therefore Jun and Dana are our nominees for eviction tonight. I still think Alison made a horrible move by not nominating one of the core members of the Stooges Alliance (Jee, Robert, or Justin). Then again, this season has been known for the emotional game play that has gone on as opposed to logical, srategic playing.

The houseguest evicted tonight, be it Dana or Jun will become the first to be sequestered for the final jury. The Big Brother rumor mill has been hopping in the last week about what some of the details of this sequestration may be. Most of the houseguests seem to believe that the sequestration site will be on a beach somewhere such as Mexico, and that the evicted houseguests will be living together. However, I have heard rumors that they have built another Big Brother house equipped with cameras and microphones right on the CBS lot in Los Angeles that the main house is located.

It should be very interesting to see if there is indeed a "twist" in the game having to do with the sequestered houseguests like they did with the first four eliminated last year. Enjoy tonight's show!

130 posted on 08/06/2003 11:54:30 AM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: jmc813
Oooo, it would be pretty crazy if we got to see the sequestered houseguests as well! I can't wait for the vote tonight. Welcome back!
131 posted on 08/06/2003 1:36:43 PM PDT by ellery
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To: jmc813
I'm voting out Dana and hope the houseguests do too.

Hope the rumor about TV-cam big bro house for jury is correct. It should be a riot to watch. All slashing nails and fangs, no need to play nice.

I was really taken with the ceremony Jee did for his father. He went up up up in my estimation. Hope he hangs in for awhile.

Another "reality" show I'm watching is For Love or Money. For a change, they have an interesting, intelligent woman doing the choosing amongst suitors to pick the one who will choose her over a million bucks. Y'all watch that? On NBC...
132 posted on 08/06/2003 3:04:41 PM PDT by PoisedWoman (Fed up with the CORRUPT liberal media)
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To: Stentor; Luis Gonzalez; Peace4EarthNow; Chancellor Palpatine; krb; carton253; Dengar01; ...
Got some white-text spoilers for y'all below...

In the food challenge this morning, the houseguests won all of the food up for grabs plus a bonus of Subway sandwiches for lunch for a week. Later, Justin nominated Jack and Nathan for eviction.

133 posted on 08/07/2003 6:37:06 PM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: jmc813
Why Jack? He's the only decent man in the house.

Hopefully, they will get rid of Nathan... but with friends like Erica, (she thinks of Jack as a father, but votes against him) Jack may be in trouble.

And the alliance had better put the pieces together on why Allison wasn't nominated. If they did, they would be able to know that she has a secret alliance with the 3 stooges. (Smart play by Allison, who I hope doesn't win because I don't like her very much)

134 posted on 08/08/2003 4:59:40 AM PDT by carton253 (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: carton253
Why Jack? He's the only decent man in the house.

Jack has been pegged as the "pawn" for this round, though I'm not completely relieved, as we've seen this season that "pawns" are not always completely safe.

but with friends like Erica, (she thinks of Jack as a father, but votes against him)

I personally wouldn't worry about Erika's loyalty to Jack. When she voted against him, I believe that she wanted to give Dave a "sympathy vote" and nothing more.

And the alliance had better put the pieces together on why Allison wasn't nominated. If they did, they would be able to know that she has a secret alliance with the 3 stooges.

There is a lot of speculation now that Alison has been in cahoots with Justin since before they even entered the house. Reportedly, the other night, Justin was chatting with Jee and Robert about auditioning for BB. He said something to the effect that he couldn't afford to fly to California, so somebody lent him the money. Now his voice was a bit muffled, but many people claim that the name he mentioned was Alison.

(Smart play by Allison, who I hope doesn't win because I don't like her very much)

Agree with you 100% there. I think she's paying a good game, but I'd hate to see her win.

135 posted on 08/08/2003 7:15:22 AM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: jmc813
The only way I would believe that Erica gave Dave a sympathy vote is if I find out that Erica is Meryl Streep in disguise. Her tears in the diary room as she voted for Dave made me believe that she sincerely voted against Jack.

Jack is the pawn... then, Jack might be in big in trouble... but I do believe the Nathan will go...

If one of the three stooges win, I won't be sorry (though I want to see Jack win) because those three scrambled to save their bacon and did it. Of course, they didn't do it with the elan of Evil Will, so I will hold that against them. :)

136 posted on 08/08/2003 7:20:28 AM PDT by carton253
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To: carton253
but I do believe the Nathan will go...

As do I, but remember, he is a force to be reckoned with in competitions. I'll be watching for the results of today's veto competition very closely, as I believe that if Nathan vetos himself, Erika will go on the block. Since Erika and Jack are my two favorite houseguests, I would be quite distressed.

137 posted on 08/08/2003 7:39:16 AM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: jmc813
You are right... Nathan is good in the competitions and if he wins, he will take himself off the block. I believe that Erica will be nominated. If the 3 stooges continue to win HOH, then the alliance will be picked off, one-by-one.

Did you see BB2? This is the one in which Evil Will won. That's what this house is missing... a character like Evil Will.

138 posted on 08/08/2003 7:42:51 AM PDT by carton253
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To: Stentor; Luis Gonzalez; Peace4EarthNow; Chancellor Palpatine; krb; carton253; Dengar01; ...
Got some POV spoilers for you below...

For the second week in a row, Robert has won the Power of Veto. It is expected that he will not be using it.

A reminder for all of you in the New York metropolitan area, for about the hundredth time this season, the friggin Yankees are delaying tonight's episode. It will air immediately upon conclusion of the game. Have I ever told y'all how much I hate baseball?

139 posted on 08/08/2003 1:52:42 PM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: jmc813
One reason I like Big Brother so much is that it is a study in the contradictions of human nature. And so much contradiction was on display last night.

Nathan's hangdog expression and cries of betrayal at the hand of Allison do have some truth in it, but Nathan is overlooking an important part. No one forced him to use the veto on Ally. She didn't hold a loaded gun to his head, or threaten his family. She flirted with him and promised him all sorts of things... He believed that she could be trusted and veto'd her. The fact that she is non-responsive to his concerns shows that Ally is self-centered, but also playing the game.

Maybe it's easy to get in amongst these people and forget that this is a game where only 2 people will get money. But, even as they betray one another and lie about one another, they don't expect that others are doing the same to them.

If any in that house told me the sky was blue, I would go outside and look. None can be trusted because only one can win.

Yet, they have selective memories and selective morals.

Justin going on and on about trust. How absurd! Jun betrayed you in regards to Michelle, so did Erica, and so did Allison. But somehow its only Jack's and Nathan's lies that Justin can't stomach.

The three stooges are poor winners. The fact that they rub the others noses in their victories shows their maturity level. How awful would it be to be stuck in a housefull of high-school acting adolescents... Not fun at all.

Of course, we don't see all the happenings... only the parts that CBS allows us to see. So, what we get is very slanted toward story telling, conflict, and tension.

Yet, as I watch, I am utterly amazed at the contradictions of the human condition on display.

140 posted on 08/13/2003 5:46:24 AM PDT by carton253
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