[Imagine]

The point: If we are asked to define people by how they wish and how they act, then why should we consider the muslim terrorists "human" and be concerned about their human rights when they act like savages? If actions define what you are, they why worry about how we eradicate these savages? They act like animals, so, they should be treated like animals.

[ffusco]

I understand that terrorists have broken all social contracts with civilized society based on their actions, but what does that have to to with pre-op transgendered people? Do I undrestand that your parallel argument applies to them, and they have become not human based on their behavior?

[MHGinTN]

You're confusing the notion of citizen--with rights of citizens, and human being--with rights afforded to human beings because they are in the species. You might want to rephrase, as in "When is a citizen NOT a citizen?" I have no problem with removing citizen rights from human beings that seek to kill and maim other citizens. I've often wondered if we treat heinous criminals too nicely. Would we keep a rabid dog around until its natural death, or dispose of it because of its potential continuing threat to citizens?