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Any Freeper ESL teachers out there?
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Posted on 06/11/2003 9:12:49 AM PDT by DC native

Are there any Freepers who are teaching English as a second language? I have just started my first class in the ESL teacher certification program at a Virginia public university. I am already completely disheartened at the leftist push toward bilingual instruction versus English immersion, with not even a pretense of balanced research to evaluate both methods. I fear the entire program is going to consist of political indoctrination. The rest of the students swallow and parrot the instructor's anti "Anglo" drivel. I would like to hear from anyone else who is in the same boat.....


TOPICS: Education; Society
KEYWORDS: bilingualism; esl

1 posted on 06/11/2003 9:12:49 AM PDT by DC native
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To: DC native
I got my Master's in TESOL from SIT in Brattleboro, Vermont (it's THE TESOL programme -- Diane Larson-Freeman et al on faculty, etc.). Yes, I know what you mean. (TESOL is TEFL/TESL) At SIT, there was certainly a leftist slant (I mean, it was Vermont!) but the bilingual bit was more geared toward the idea of kids being immersed in two languages...for example some of my classmates interned at private schools in New England where the kids were immersed in French and English. (I interned in TEFL in Mexico.)

I am already completely disheartened at the leftist push toward bilingual instruction versus English immersion, with not even a pretense of balanced research to evaluate both methods.

According to the gurus at SIT (and they are considered the best in the world in this field), English immersion is the most effective. In fact, the best situation is a class in which none of the students speak each others' language! (For example, one student is a Spanish-speaker, one a Chinese-speaker, etc., so they can't even talk to each other without using English.) Big companies pay big bucks to send their executives there to learn English with this type of class structure because it really is the most effective.

On a practical note, binlingual education might be the best route for older children of workers who plan to return to their home country, as learning content is more important in such case than learning the language. Otherwise, bilingual education is for folks who can afford to educate their children to be truly bilingual and who aren't themselves fluent in two languages (like the parents who send their kids to those private New England schools.)

One concept of bilingual education is that ALL students learn BOTH languages and are immersed in BOTH (as at those fancy private schools). What ends up happening in our public schools is that only the kids who need to learn English are given bilingual education and we born-here Americans still can't really speak anything but English very well.

Well, I hope this was helpful.

2 posted on 06/11/2003 10:40:33 PM PDT by wonders (Tag sale!)
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To: DC native
It's not just ESL - I just started a ACP (accelerated certification program) for secondary business, and I'm choking on "multiculturalism". My assignment last week was to incorporate it into a lesson plan -
3 posted on 06/12/2003 1:31:37 PM PDT by tigs
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To: wonders
The TESOL standards are as leftist as they come. There are other standards out there, but you can bet we're going with the TESOL in my class. We have been assigned a boatload of readings and all of them push bilingual/dual immersion. What upsets me is the fact that I paid $800 for this class and nobody is even pretending that both sides of the debate will be given consideration. I am open minded at this point. So much for intellectual diversity in US academia.

The instructor has made it clear that English immersion equals "Anglo" racism. He focuses only on what's good for Hispanic children. When someone in the class asked, "What about the children who speak other languages," his answer was that there are not enough hearts available for everyone who needs a transplant. He is Hispanic. And he is a bigot. But I guess that's ok in the world of academia.
4 posted on 06/13/2003 4:42:28 AM PDT by DC native
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To: tigs
Yes, multiculturalist dogma has penetrated every aspect of our lives. I listen to The Stepford Students in my class spewing this nonsense and I ask myself if there is any actual thinking going on in their brains as they become conspirators in the murder of their own culture.
5 posted on 06/13/2003 4:49:30 AM PDT by DC native
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To: DC native
Oh dear! When I did my Master's back in the 90s in Vermont, there was an add-on certification for "Bilingual-Multicultural Education." I didn't get that one.

It sounds like the instructor is a real kookoobird. Are your other instructors like this, too? Out of curiosity, what are they teaching you about teaching English? What methods, etc.?

If I come across some of my old stuff with the research, I'll ping you. It may not help with the kookoobird, but at least you'll know what the research says!

6 posted on 06/14/2003 9:08:26 AM PDT by wonders
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To: DC native
In my experience, ESL meant just that. There was absolutely no Enlgish spoken in the classroom. All of the lessons were given in Spanish. The only English the kids spoke was on the playground and at lunch.
7 posted on 06/23/2003 4:00:10 PM PDT by thornswell
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