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The Guild 6-5-2003 Need to vent about Hillary's book - This is the place
SFGate ^ | 6-4-2003 | CALVIN WOODWARD and SIOBHAN McDONOUGH

Posted on 06/05/2003 3:53:29 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:42:41 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Hillary Rodham Clinton shows her softer side in her new book, taking some responsibility for "botching" health care reform and not being sensitive enough to people who thought she should be a traditional first lady.

But the New York senator does not apologize for the causes she felt passionate about.


(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


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To: Iowa Granny

Your post sent me off looking to see what the heck was "Creeping Charlie."

That's nasty looking stuff.

181 posted on 06/09/2003 10:21:15 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: lodwick
Creeping Charlie is the most prolific slut of the weed world. Drastic measures are necessary to hold it back. Once you get it, you never get rid of it. Literally. I will deal with this the rest of my life. I will eventually end up digging all my flowers out of this area, setting them aside somewhere else, and Rounduping the entire bed.
182 posted on 06/09/2003 10:26:48 AM PDT by Iowa Granny (If you want your dreams to come true,,,,,,, Don't Sleep!!)
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To: Iowa Granny; lodwick; mountaineer; pubmom; *GUILD
Well, I saw the interview last night. I needed a bath afterwards. Hubby was laughing at me because all I could say is "LIAR!!!"LIAR!!!"LIAR!!!"LIAR!!!"LIAR!!!"LIAR!!!

I feel as though I've eaten a big bag of crapola seeing the Witch Hillary on TV all day today.

Did ya all pick up on the scripted word the Hillary lovers used?

"Any Fair minded person" ....................Oh please!

183 posted on 06/09/2003 11:21:32 AM PDT by Teacup (Bush, Leadership, Morality, Integrity)
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To: Teacup; pubmom; BigWaveBetty; Timeout; Iowa Granny; Endeavor; Hillary's Lovely Legs; All
Hi, all. Just got back from running errands all day, getting glamorized at the salon de beaute, buying geraniums (the only thing the slugs won't eat, it seems), etc.

All the talk is still about the Hildebeaste, looks like, between Rush and the local radio talkers. Of course, as most radio folk are part of the vast right wing conspiracy, they're all pointing out how much she lied. Once in a while, a pathetic pea-brained liberal will call in and say, "You're just jealous!" I don't know what they mean by that. One seemed to indicate the host might be jealous of Bill's success with the women, a laughable concept, at best. Just amazing.

184 posted on 06/09/2003 2:45:52 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer; Teacup; *The GUILD
Caladiums are our color of choice - the only thing that gets them here are the deer, when it's really dry.

The media's, and others with room temperature type iq's, fawning fascination with the bents is simply amazing to behold.

How do they continue to do it?
185 posted on 06/09/2003 3:21:45 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: pubmom
HLL said she was going to call her to see how sh'e doing. That lil Aggie should be here any day now!

HLL, call Aggie Mama.

186 posted on 06/09/2003 3:45:19 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty (Mama Mia, that's a spicy meatball!)
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To: lodwick
Packer, 39, a highway maintenance worker [aka UNION] from Huntington, planned to buy two books.I would dare to say that over half the crowd were union people.

Remember Speaker Jim Wright?

187 posted on 06/09/2003 3:49:55 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty (Mama Mia, that's a spicy meatball!)
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To: Teacup
"Any Fair minded person" ....................Oh please!

I feel a new tag line fermenting.........

188 posted on 06/09/2003 3:52:16 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty (Mama Mia, that's a spicy meatball!)
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To: mountaineer
Yeah, jealous that we can't lie like a rug the way these slugs do and live with ourselves.

Found another memoir boo-boo:

But two recent volumes -- our Post colleague Peter Baker's "The Breach" and former White House aide Sidney Blumenthal's "The Clinton Wars" -- appear to differ with Sen. Clinton's account of President Bill Clinton's shocking admission and its aftermath.[snip]

[Obligatory I gulped, I cried, etc.....]

But Baker reports that Clinton actually got the real story two days earlier, on the night of Aug. 13, from trusted attorney David Kendall. "And so it fell to him at that critical moment to play emissary from husband to wife, to disclose the most awful secret of any marriage," Baker writes on Page 24. "Something obviously had gone on between the president and Lewinsky, Kendall had told the first lady in his soft, understated way. The president was going to have to tell the grand jury about it. Only after Kendall laid the foundation did Clinton speak directly to his wife."

Last night, Kendall weighed in to contradict Baker's account, which Baker told us was based "on more than one authoritative source." Kendall told us: "Actually, I did not inform her of the Lewinsky matter. I believe the account in her book is accurate."

The morning after Kendall's visit to the first lady, the New York Times published a front-page story headlined: "President Weighs Admitting He Had Sexual Contacts." This was a full 24 hours before the morning of Sen. Clinton's playlet of revelation and betrayal in the first couple's bedroom.WashPost

189 posted on 06/09/2003 4:28:04 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty (Mama Mia, that's a spicy meatball!)
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To: BigWaveBetty
Thanks for that squeeker of the mouse reminder...I hope the goof finally just used them for kindlin' in his fireplace.

ALL politicians are soooo dirty. To get to this level, they have been bought and paid for more times than a Bunny Ranch pro.

I'm really sick of it all.

Cheers friend.
190 posted on 06/09/2003 4:54:05 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: BigWaveBetty
Thanks for this reminder: bb balls had Kendall go take the ash tray upside the dome.

Please keep putting these lies up here so that we can try to inform our less than informed brethren.

Thank you.
191 posted on 06/09/2003 4:57:45 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: BigWaveBetty
I'm confused. The Lewinsky story hit the news in January, 1998. Hillary's saying she just found out in August (whether from Kendall or dear Bill), when x42 testified to the grand jury?
192 posted on 06/09/2003 5:17:03 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Was August when the blue dress becamse known to Kendall? What she knew could be code for "Uh, oh, legal problems"!
193 posted on 06/09/2003 5:25:34 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: habs4ever
I don't know the timeline, but I just find it hard to believe that Hillary didn't read the newspapers between Jan-Aug 1998!

Speaking of newspapers, even the NY Lies, er - Times - gets it:

Two leitmotifs run through Hillary Rodham Clinton's wildly hyped new memoir, "Living History."

One has to do with her changing hairstyles, which are discussed in detail at least a half dozen times, as they morphed with Madonna-like frequency from long to short, from frizzy to hair-banded to carefully coiffed. The other has to do with Mrs. Clinton's penchant for blaming enemies, from political opponents to a "vast right-wing conspiracy," for her and her husband's failures and travails.

The first underscores the chameleonlike quality she's always shared with her husband, the belief, as he once put it, that character "is a journey, not a destination." The second underscores both the highly partisan atmosphere of the 1990's and the Clintons' reluctance to assume full responsibility for their own mistakes and evasions. ...

Overall the book has the overprocessed taste of a stump speech, the calculated polish of a string of anecdotes to be delivered on a television chat show.

Mrs. Clinton is fond of talking about herself in lofty terms as a symbolic figure. "While Bill talked about social change, I embodied it." Her 562-page book is in many ways an artifact of the curious age in which we live: an age in which confession and "sharing" have become talking points for public figures, and scandal translates instantly into celebrity. An age in which tough, talented women can ascend to high political office but often experience their greatest popularity when they are perceived as less-threatening victims. book review

194 posted on 06/09/2003 5:41:30 PM PDT by mountaineer
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Oh my, even the WashCompost seems skeptical:

"I wasn't born a First Lady or a senator," is the first sentence in Hillary Rodham Clinton's memoir, "Living History." The rest of the story is about how she became both.

In the book, which will be officially released tomorrow, Clinton writes of her suburban, middle-class Chicago upbringing. Her mother, Dorothy, was a saint; her father, Hugh, a fiscally tight-fisted taskmaster. [Read, "psycho"]

If Hillary or one of her brothers left the cap off the toothpaste, for instance, her father would throw the cap out the window and make the children search for it, "even in the snow." This was his way of "reminding us not to waste anything." She writes that "to this day, I put uneaten olives back in the jar, wrap up the tiniest pieces of cheese and feel guilty when I throw anything away."

The underlying presumption is that we care about every facet of Hillary Clinton: her childhood, education, romance, political life, family, future, delights, disappointments. ...

Near the end, she plots her run for the U.S. Senate. On February 12, 1999, Clinton meets with Harold Ickes, an old friend and political adviser, to ask his advice about the New York terrain. This was the same day that the Senate was voting on her husband's impeachment.

The book ends as the Clintons are leaving the White House. She is dancing with the White House butler. "My husband cuts in," she writes, "taking me in his arms as we waltzed together down the long hall.

"Then I said goodbye to the house where I had spent eight years living history." [Blecchh]

195 posted on 06/09/2003 5:47:36 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
That's awful - not a wonder she's fat with a dad like that.

Why wasn't she taught how to hold a writing instrument? My teachers would have whopped me upside the head with this grip.

These people are slap-dab nutz.

196 posted on 06/09/2003 5:54:17 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: lodwick
This is interesting: the Indian press just fawns over the Clintons, acting like x42 is the greatest thing since vindaloo, but here's a negative view from the Times of India about Hillary's lying history.
197 posted on 06/09/2003 6:05:14 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
The reason Hillary stuck around with the heel is all too obvious to anybody — herself. I guess, it’s payback time now. It’s Bill Clinton’s turn to maintain a stoic silence, grit his teeth and bear it.

Great link - thank you.

Don't miss this quick and easy analysis folks.
198 posted on 06/09/2003 6:54:31 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: lodwick
Yes, that article nails it, doesn't it?

Nasty weather in these parts tonite. You best check in the morning to see if you still have a barn.
199 posted on 06/09/2003 9:09:44 PM PDT by Iowa Granny (If you want your dreams to come true,,,,,,, Don't Sleep!!)
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To: lodwick; mountaineer; Endeavor; Hillary's Lovely Legs; BigWaveBetty; All
This is a great thread. I'm tired of seeing Hillary's face all over the place. And after thinking about it for awhile, I think Hillary has miscalculated. She has a strategy that probably would have worked in the climate before 9/11 occurred, but since then, most Americans eyes have been opened. We don't care about her and her stoic (!) silence in the face of Bill's affairs (like we believe that story), we have much more weighty matters on our minds. President Bush has a lot more opposition, and manages to get things done. And does so without whining. Hillary is soooo Sept 10th (credited to Dog.)
200 posted on 06/09/2003 9:59:57 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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