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To: grannie9; Mo1; andysandmikesmom; ValerieUSA; lodwick; westmex; habs4ever
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Thread about Prozac.
One of the reasons I don't go for anti-depressants.
Xanax, docepin, Paxil, or Prozac are all bad ideas.
And an unmentioned side effect of the first two (XANAX, Docepin) is permanent sterility.

Yes, they do help some people.
But the rule of thumb SHOULD be, "bipolar disorder, schizophrenics should not take these."
They do not help such mental disorders at all, and should never be taken by people with those disorders.
(Honestly, anti-depressants can make bipolars worse.)

Here's the scary part: they prescribe these drugs to people without knowing fully what they do and why. They have no idea what they effect or how it does it.

Yet they'll tell you to your face that they are sure about it.
1,482 posted on 06/04/2003 8:58:53 AM PDT by Darksheare (Nox aeternus en pax.)
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To: Darksheare
I have a SIL that's Bi-Polar.. and I think she must take all of them..

She's absolutely NUTS.. They treat her for Manic-Depression.. what do you think she takes? Personally, I'd like to see her take a little piece of lead in her right ear.. Might help my poor BIL out.. (Kidding of course) ahem....;)
1,483 posted on 06/04/2003 9:03:04 AM PDT by grannie9 (wish I could think of a clean tagline......Lysol?)
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To: Darksheare
But the rule of thumb SHOULD be, "bipolar disorder, schizophrenics should not take these."

Correcto.

Lithium is the only drug that has proven effective with Bi-Polar dissorder.

There are a number of anti-psychotics that are helpfull with Schitzophrenics.

Antidepressants are for Clinical Depression, situational depression, Obsessive Compulsive disorder, and other neuroses.
The trouble is no two people are affected the same, so they can't just be prescribed off a chart. Each patient must be worked up on one drug after another to see what it does for them. That can take years and hundreds of visits, that insurance won't cover.

So9

1,490 posted on 06/04/2003 9:16:50 AM PDT by Servant of the Nine (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: Darksheare
But the rule of thumb SHOULD be, "bipolar disorder, schizophrenics should not take these."

You are definitely out...

1,493 posted on 06/04/2003 9:40:01 AM PDT by null and void (Who Cries For The Krill?)
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To: Darksheare
Interesting article Darksheare ..

Personally I don't trust doctors .. especially after witnessing some of the stuff my mom went through after my dad died.

Dad suffered 5 years with cancer and was in and out of the hospital alot .. Mom had to take care of him and 6 kids .. two years before dad died she was pregnant with my youngest sister .. that is a whole different story and what the doctors told her at the time that could happen to my sister .. she only gain like 15 pounds during that time.

All during this time, she would have her mood swings, but they were nothing like after dad died and she went into a depression .. the doctors said she was a manic depressive and put her on meds .. I'm not sure what meds they gave her at the time, I was only 8 yrs old at the time and the adults didn't think I needed to know what was going on .. but IMO whatever they were, they did NOT help and let's just say it was not a fun time around my house during that time. The slightest things would set mom off and she would just beat the day lights out of me. I have older siblings, but that is a long story and they weren't much help

Well .. another long story, but they ended up puting mom in the hospital and gave her electric shock treatments to snap her out of the manic Depression. Not sure if that is what worked or it was the fear of going thru that again, but things around the house did get better and after some time, mom stopped taking those meds.

1,514 posted on 06/04/2003 12:24:48 PM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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