DD/Freeple Thread 1

[Servant of the Nine]

Before Fatal Flight 587
Earlier Flight Hit With Pressures Severe Enough to Break off Tail

Four years before the tail fell off an American Airlines plane in New York ... a jet of the same model experienced similar tail problems. Airbus officials ... said they did not know until last year that pressures on the earlier flight ... were strong enough to have broken off the plane's tail as it neared West Palm Beach, Fla., in April 1997.

... pilots used the rudder to try to steady a plane veering up and down and from side to side for about 34 seconds.

"Airbus never, ever warned American Airlines or any other airline that that we're aware of, or federal safety investigators, that they knew of previous incidents in which the vertical tail was nearly ripped off by the rudder reversals,"

Oh, those sneaky Frogs.

So9

[ValerieUSA]

That other flight (Flight 903) didn't crash.

While visual checks of the Flight 903 tail found no problems, an ultrasound inspection last year found damage at one point where the tail fin is connected to the fuselage. The tail, though still strong enough to meet regulations, was replaced, McConnell said.

So an ultasound found a bit of damage that didn't violate standards of strength, yet it was replaced anyway. But have all the other tails been ultrasound scanned? No. Why? Because it's not significant.
Are passengers' shoes inspected? Yes, because the shoe bomber and Flight 587 (the fatal one) proved that plastics explosives on board airliners are significant.
Why was the "opportunity" to blame the crash on terrorism passed up? Because people are afraid of terrorism now, and won't fly if that's the big ongoing threat. So we do inspections, make them feel safe, and carry on as they are left only to worry about the statistical improbability of their plane just falling out of the sky accidentally. That's just silly to cancel plans over that....

[Darksheare]

Bah!
We know ya well enough.
Sounds like they were on a fishing expedition.

I'd have been locked up due to giving them attitude.
My Brother in law says I'm safer sticking near him.
Would make sense, he's Westfall PA's police chief...

[Darksheare]

They also aren't used to guys pulling swords out as if they weigh nothing...

[westmex]

On a lighter note

........Westy.....

[andysandmikesmom]

Westy, wonderful pics of you as a little one...love the last two, you in the carriage, and then being a little sunbather...and Val is doing a great job, on showing them to their best...

On the matter of beer for breakfast...when me and BigDom were packing up my moms house, to move her up to Washington state to live with us, one of my cousins was coming down with one of his pals to help up pack up...

They were coming early, so I had planned to serve everyone a large hefty breakfast, to start the day off right...my cousin and his friend entered, each guy carrying a six pack of beer under each arm...they said, forget cooking, we are all going to have a 'Cowboy Breakfast'

Which meant...all workers involved, must consume a six pack of beer before starting work...well the men were able to throw back that six pack, but I could only down three cans...needless to say, the three men, each took one of my beers, and polished them off...

It always did surprise me, that we were able to pack up that big old house, in just one day, with three guys stuffed with 'Cowboy Breakfast', and continued on with 'Cowboy Lunch' and 'Cowboy Dinner'...

The three men did all the packing...my job consisted of giving orders, and running out for more beer...

Beer...its tasty...

[westmex]

Stanwood,WA.

.......Westy.....

[Mo1]

WOW ...

[westmex]

You like our grey threatning skies???? Thought you were looking for sun......

......Westy.....

[Mo1]

That is about what our skies are looking like .. Grey and Dark ..

[ValerieUSA]

A family of ducks took a stroll through our neighborhood today. I don't know why. We don't have a lake right here.

[ValerieUSA]

[Mo1]

Ahhhhhhhhhh ... they are cute .. but know of have the song in my head

10 little ducks went out one day ..
Over the hills and far one away ..
Mama duck said Quack Quack Quack
But only 9 little ducks came back

[ValerieUSA]

[westmex]

Do I dare post another of these???

Mom and me

........Westy...

[ValerieUSA]

There were a dozen little ducklings here, and headed straight for a very busy street. One of the babies did fall into road and I had to chase it and catch it among drivers on phones who weren't paying attention to anything happening.... Eventually they all went into an open garage and I have no idea what happened to them since then.

[westmex]

Those are odd looking ducks....Any idea what kind they are???

......Westy......

[ValerieUSA]

You sure were a happy little critter, weren't you westy? That camera must have been funny-looking to make you laugh at it all the time.

[ValerieUSA]

I have no idea what kind of duck they are. The adults have blue tips to their beaks. I haven't seen cute ducks like these in the local river or lake - we have some of the ugliest ducks ever there. I'm thinking maybe they are wandering pets.

[Mo1]

Wow ... A happy little thing you are ..

Your parents sure did take alot of pictures of you .. being the 5th born, there aren't many baby pictures of me when I was that little.